The American consumer is a fucking idiot, this has a high chance of success as people forget about Elon and go back to buying them.
I mean, in fairness, do we have any qualms with the rest of the company? Elon was directly responsible for pretty much all of the cyber truck decisions. But the regular Tesla’s, aside from Elon prohibiting lidar and making false claims about self driving, are pretty decent. Without him, lidar might get implemented, the cyber truck will probably be scrapped, and real engineers will have their voices heard again.
Isn’t that kind of what we want from a company? To realize their errors and remove the cancerous parts?
Tesla was garbage before Elon came out as a Nazi. The quality control is non existent and has been.
Yes, and that’s another reason the company is failing, and I won’t buy a car from them. But, that’s not the point here, the point is Musk’s stupid antics are having major consequences for him. The only value he’s had for the company for years is as a mascot. The company succeeded so far as it has in spite of Musk, not because of him. Same for SpaceX.
I think you’re probably giving a potential new CEO too much credit. You really think that Elon will just relinquish control over his company and let the CEO do whatever? Not a chance.
He will still have a shitload of shares. I don’t need to get into the nitty-gritty detail of whether I hate the company or its products; his stock in it is what allowed him to buy the election for Trump, so fuck Tesla.
But did Tesla facilitate that or was Tesla worn like a puppet by an investor(Elon). There’s a distinct difference and what I’m asking. Do we blame every company that gets gutted by Venture Capitalists? Do they have no path to redemption?
It’s bizarre that you’re even entertaining this as an idea.
Unless Musk loses all of his shares, not sold, and not only some, all of them - Tesla is complicit in providing power to Elon Musk.
No they do not have a path to redemption as long as it is *literally the reason he was able to buy (and manipulate for his own gains) Twitter.
But did Tesla facilitate that
It’s shareholders sure did.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/elon-musk-pay-package-vote-cbs-news-explains/
We do, as he’s the biggest shareholder 🙃
Calling a company, which actively vendor-locks pretty much the whole car using their propiatery software while having the worst warranty ever, pretty decent is beyond me.
Especially a company belonging to the car lobby.
They’re overvalued in the triple multiples compared to other American car companies because they’re a meme stock and halfway ran on government subsidies we paid for rather than putting it into education or social causes.
A step in the right direction isn’t good enough when there’s miles to tread.
A step in the right direction isn’t good enough when there’s miles to tread.
So all or nothing? Then you’ll get nothing.
Good, fuck em. There’s no negotiation here. I don’t care if the entire company goes under. What great service is Tesla providing? Not enough mobile beta-testers riding bombs down the rosd? They do nothing for the people supporting them.
I guess a new company will have to rise up so entitled Californians can be tricked by marketing into thinking they’re saving the planet when the batteries were mined by gas-powered machines using the same poor brown folk they feel sorry for on Bluesky.
Cry a river.
At this point, it would be tempting to have all their employees quit and start their own EV company, or join another one. It’s not like the people vanish when a company folds.
I’m pretty sure he means that there’s no point in trying to please you because you’ll always set a goalpost that can’t be reached, so there’s no point in really considering your opinion.
Maybe lemmy isn’t for you.
Corporate apologists belong on Reddit with the rest of the fascists.
Still means fuck all as long as he holds his Tesla shares. All you’re doing is making him more money by making the shares go up again.
Drive the stock into the forking ground.
I’ll do it. Here’s my CV. As you can see, compared to the current CEO it’s vastly better:
- can beat a tutorial boss. In fact, has beaten many final bosses
- has never done a nazi salute
- is loved by partner and child
To top it off, I’ll do it for the low low price of 200k/year
Don’t sell yourself short with those qualifications you deserve atleast a mil
I vote for this guy to run Tesla, and governement.
I, for one, welcome our new overlordoflocksley
LOL was just shitting on him having no friends, damn this guy literally goes to bed fucking knowing nobody likes him
Anybody else I’d hope their self-defense mechanisms (“Biden’s the reason people hate me” “I’m huge in
Japansomewhere” “no friends but that caviar was great today”) would kick in, but sorry no sympathies extended to those who sent their “heart” out to us
There was a day, not too long ago, where I’d seriously considered buying a Tesla. And I nearly did.
As of today, I for one will never buy a single Tesla product - not a car, not a truck, not a battery, not a robot, whatever - for as long as I live.
And no decision from Tesla leadership will change my mind at this point. Fuck them.
Even if that makes me a crazy old man 30-40 years from now when all this is in the past. Never means never.
I would have 100% bought a Tesla. I just bought a Hyundai Ioniq 6 instead.
There aren’t many EV sedans under $60k.
Maybe I’ll consider a Tesla in another ten years if Elon has divested his stock.
Aren’t Teslas Hatchbacks, or sportsbacks, or fastbacks? The windshield lifts with the trunk door, so not sedans.
I love my Tesla and have zero issues with it. Sure I think Elon’s a moron but I won’t let that fact stop me from enjoying an awesome car.
They are the best EV out there, despite all the shit you hear about from people who’ve never driven or owned one.
They are the best EV out there
First of all, there are a ton of EVs right now, with a new one coming out every day. While Teslas are generally solid EVs, it’s not so obvious thay they are the best. Have you seen the new Chinese ones? Have you tried them?
Second, this means little even if accurate. For the time being, EVs have little purpose due to the technology (mostly batteries) being incredibly underdeveloped for use in vehicles. So “the best EV” is still, overall, terrible.
Their main advantage is supposedly that they are environment-friendly. Well, that is mostly (still not fully) true only if you never swap out the battery. Which in a few years makes the car barely usable. Due to the way lithium-ion batteries work, their condition degrades rapidly when you charge them quickly, or only half-way, or leave them charging overnight. It’s the same as in a smartphone. Just look at people’s iPhone’s battery conditions after one year of use. Except in an EV, battery life directly translates to range.
A Tesla Model S has a marketed range of 373 miles. At 100%, brand new battery condition. Regular use can bring the condition down to as little as 80% over a period of one year. That depletes the car’s range to approximately 300 miles. And the condition will continue to drop. To keep the condition high, you’d need to charge the battery relatively slowly (24-48 hours of charging) and from a very low charge to a mostly full charge. Precisely the same way you keep your phone’s battery condition high. This is simply unrealistic in the context of EVs.
This leaves us with the inevitable replacement of batteries, which alone generate more CO2 emissions to produce than entire combustion engine cars, including driving them for a year on average. Does this still sound environmentally friendly to anyone?
As it stands, the technology just isn’t there for us to be able to make good, environment-friendly EVs. And I’m ignoring all of their other issues here. To include everything, you’d have to write a novel. I don’t mean to hate on EVs too much, but to me personally it looks like currently they just make very little, if any, sense. Maybe in a few years? Chinese companies are successfully developing new types of batteries, but they’re not sharing them with western companies.
We’ll see what the future brings. In any event, don’t stop boycotting Tesla even if the CEO changes. Musk still has a shitload of Tesla stock, so the company’s financial state is closely linked to his.
There’s far too much information in your post to bother. You clearly know very little about EV’s and how they work.
Having driven many different Evs now, and through work dealt with Tesla’s for years, I really do not agree with your best EV out there claim. The only model in the lineup I can’t comment on is the cybertuck, as that fucking thing can’t pass my countries safety requirements, lol
They are the best EV out there, despite all the shit you hear about from people who’ve never driven or owned one.
Oh. You can disregard the opinions of people who haven’t driven or owned a car? How many other EVs have you driven to know Tesla is the best then?
By your own logic I dismiss your obvious Swasticar fanboyism.
There are many people on social media that review EV cars so I don’t have to own every single one to know what’s the best one to buy.
That’s such a stupid take it just makes me laugh.
Exactly. You’re the one that made it. I’m glad we agree.
I was commenting on your stupid comment, you dolt. Are you trying to be as insufferable as Elon?
I’m right there with you. I was actually considering the model 3 for a while. Even put a deposit down. Then Elon started showing his true colors around when the cybertruck was announced and it just felt wrong to keep supporting him.
For me, its more than just the support.
I wouldn’t trust it even if someone gifted it to me. You don’t know what software runs on there. The car could be programmed to kill you when it see you wearing a LGBT pin on your shirt.
and they you look into thier quality, its overpriced.
Naw if Bernie nationalizes the corpse of the company holding their IP, would be happy to buy two
Would this include a total revamp of everything in the cars?
Teslas product are inherently consumer hostile.
They are bad build quality,. The user interface is made to cut costs not good UX. You need a subscription for things already in the car. Autopilot shuts off just before accidents to not make Tesla liable for the incident.
The list just goes on.
Everything about that company screams “fuck you” at the people buying their product.
So… Why would anyone from them ever listen to you? If you’re complete lost cause to them, why would they cater to your requests?
Hard boycotts and grudges are accounted for. What you’ve done is pushed the line the other way because now there’s one less person to sway them to fix their shit, since there’s no monitary gain in you.
They obviously don’t care what Tesla does beyond now, but this type of reaction is a message to other similar businesses, especially one with a market of generally progressive people. One part is sticking to your own ethics and morals and not supporting a company that supports fascism, and the other part is making it known that other companies that do the same are going to suffer the consequences.
Elon Musk would still own an enormous portion of Tesla, so if you want Elon to be punished you should never forgive Tesla for enabling Musk
As of February 28, 2025, Elon Musk owns approximately 12.8% of Tesla.
12.8% is not an enormous portion. It’s shocking how easily people spread misinformation.
He owns over 410 million shares and is the largest single shareholder. That is an enormous amount
It’s under 13% so while he’s the largest single owner, he still doesn’t own an enormous amount. He could easily be bought out.
13% is the threshold for “an enormous amount”?
Meh. The only possible reason to keep accumulating after a billion is for respect and power. I’m pretty sure Elon has fucked up both to the point where most of his money gets him nothing. I’m pretty sure he is headed to a “death of despair” type ending before long.
Looking forward to him being found face down in a hot tub
I want you to be right, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
Basically we’re all just waiting for him to die of a ketamine overdose.
I feel so bad for him
Don’t despair Muskquito, people make new friends all the time, even entirely unlikable video game cheaters. There is a nonzero chance you might not die entirely alone. Don’t let the haters following logical trajectories get you down!
He can at the very least commiserate with Billy Mitchell.
I’ve been expecting this, and it isn’t the only thing coming.
Before the recent earnings call, which was far worse than we even expected, we hadn’t heard much from him over the previous few weeks. He knew that terrible call was coming, and had been laying low, probably hoping things would improve some before making what he knew would be a disastrous earnings call. It was the equivalent of watching your diet 3 days before a doctor’s appointment, hoping your weight gain and cholesterol increase won’t be as bad as you know it is.
Also, it was a safe bet that his board of directors was livid, and that he had been ordered by his board to get back to work, or be removed as CEO of Tesla, and now it looks like they are moving toward with firing him. So why that decision?
The probable reason is that now that the earnings call confirmed what everyone suspected, there is almost certainly a shareholder class-action suit brewing over his reckless and irresponsible behavior over the last several months, which has directly caused severe, and probably irreparable damage to the company’s brand image AND it’s sales around the world, as well as tanking the stock price, an unforgiveable sin in the investing world. Now that the bubble has popped, it will never inflate again. As future earnings reports are released, and sales continue to slide, the stock will continue to decline, and the cycle will continue until bankruptcy. And it is all traceable to Skum’s self-indulgent, egotistical behavior.
The only question is will Skum be the only defendant, or will the lawsuit also name the individual members of the board, for not reigning him in, or firing him. They don’t want to be sued alongside him, so they are forcing him to get back to work saving Tesla, or even getting rid of him altogether, thus letting them off the hook for legal liability.
Its doubtful Skum, or anyone else, will be able to save Tesla at this point, its almost certainly too late. It is also probably too late to avoid a shareholder lawsuit. Investors have lost millions of dollars, not due to the vagaries of the market, but due to Skum’s outrageous behavior, like throwing up celebratory Nazi salutes on national TV, which, as CEO, he should have realized would damage his company and its investors significantly.
And arguing that he didn’t recognize the danger in advance is no excuse at all for a CEO, who should have been able to predict the response to his self-indulgent ego bender.
Shareholders have lost many millions, and they won’t just let that go with an “Oh well.” He’s likely going to get sued, and the board is just making sure they don’t go down with him.
Yeah, except he and his brother own majority shares in Tesla and pretty much hand-picked the board. I bet this is nothing but performative; they get a new ‘face’ for the company while he still runs Tesla from the background, Wizard of Oz style.
As of February 28, 2025, Elon Musk owns approximately 12.8% of Tesla
He was ousted as CEO once, and he’s put in preventative measures in every company since.
If they’re replacing him, it’s with his blessing specifically to try and prevent losses. And you can bet your ass that he’ll be a “special employee/consultant” that has the power to veto the new CEO.
He never ran tesla, he profits from it
Oh, he runs it. Just not well. He sucks at real CEO work like he sucks at everything else in his life.
I would have thought he just invested in companies and never really ran them. Then I saw the CyberTruck and I was like: “oh yeah, that’s definitely him”. I mean also Twitter is a shitshow and that’s obviously Musk too.
The board needs to not only punt Elon, they need to buy him out.
I’ll consider Tesla as an option a decade after he’s been scrubbed from the company.
This is the best case scenario.
I cannot coherently express how much I hope he gets margin called on all of the leveraged assets he has that are underwritten by his TSLA shares
I volunteer as tribute if it means I can get fired in 6 months for my incompetence and be provided with a $25 million dollar severance package.
Hell, I can be twice as incompetent for half as much!
I could do it, no way I could do a worse job then musk.
I don’t know you at all, but I know what you’ve said to be a fact.
Your continued support is appreciated. I pledge to not turn Tesla into anything more/less mediocre then it currently is.
me me! pick me!
I vote for this guy… Oh wait I have no shares of TSLA
That’s OK. The most important thing is to be incredibly rich. Can you work that?
Hmmm sorry no. Still pay taxes.
Why do I feel like they are just pumping the stock up? What is to stop them from changing their mind and selling the moment they say “Just kidding!” . Rinse and repeat. Might as well since market manipulation is not illegal anymore if you are in the three comma club.
They should look into filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy and liquidating the entire company.
I would prefer they liquidate Musk
Agreed
Elon losing his job is just fucking priceless. ❤❤❤
