This is going to be fun watching over the next four years. LOL. You just gotta laugh.

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    There might be one or two far leftists here. Seriously curious, does anyone here think drinking raw cow’s milk is a good idea? Why?

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      I feel like it used to be a super far left thing but the spectrum is a horseshoe as I’m sure you know. I also think it comes a bit from the prepper community which tends to be “libertarian”

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      The alt right crowd are weird as shit. Nobody gave a fuck about “raw milk” until the last year or so.

      I’ve seen signs for raw milk in the UK now. The local Facebook groups have tinfoil hat types who think there’s a giant conspiracy about Arla (huge milk wholesaler) milk not selling, and taking photos of milk in shops to “prove” it…

      The world seems to be in a mental health crisis, and while I’m not suggesting reopening Bedlam lunatic asylum we should probably pay some attention to this. Social media has a lot to answer for

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        I work at a tailgate market in a left leaning area. There’s always one or two people who come looking for raw milk and I have to explain that the milk we sell is UV pasteurized instead of heat pasteurized, so the proteins are more intact. They’re never satisfied with that. They tend to have accents, so I assume they use to get raw milk in their country, but in their country, the milk isn’t being mixed from hundreds of cows, possible from completely different farms, so the rick of contamination is much higher.

        I tell them to find a farm and tell them you want to make cheese. It’s not my problem if they want to make themselves sick.

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    It’s obvious why they’re suddenly obsessed with Raw Milk. It’s the same reason they were suddenly Anti-Vax, anti-Mask, and anti-plague-control.

    Democrats said a thing, Republicans immediately reply with the opposite.

    Democrats said Vaccines prevent disease, Republicans declared vaccines are poison. Democrats said wearing a mask can reduce the transmission of airborne pathogens, Republicans said masks will kill you and are illegal now. Democrats said “Don’t drink raw milk, it can transmit deadly diseases.” Republicans declare “You can take the raw milk from my cold dead hands.”

    I honestly expect that if Democrats released a PSA against jumping off cliffs onto jagged rocks, because the fall could be dangerous, Republicans would immediately start taking picture standing on the edges of cliffs with the caption of “Don’t tell me what to do.”

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      Imagine being so vapid that the extent of your understanding of the world boils down to just being contrarian.

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        It’s much easier than thinking.

        Don’t get involved with people who enthusiastically shit on others’ ideas, while having none of their own. Can’t count how many times I’ve countered a complaint with “Ok, what would you do?” only to be met with those empty eyes that tell you there’s nothing happening behind them.

        Some people just think conversation is defined as bitching.

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          I feel like most of the time they don’t even know the actual implications of what they’re saying, but are simply repeating the thing that they heard on the radio or Fox News. All they know is that the Democrats don’t like whatever it is, and that’s all that matters to them.

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        Maybe take baby steps first, like “you should never cross a street with heavy traffic”, “looking down the barrel of your gun is too dangerous” and “eating poop is nasty”

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    We should have a weekly celebration where conservatives drink raw milk together. Just guzzle it all down you idiots.

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      As someone who stopped drinking raw milk as soon as I became aware of the bird flu issue they have whatever happens to them coming. They’re incredibly goddamn stupid.

      I just like non homogenized milk, it’s hard to find pasteurized. Nothing worth dying over ffs.

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    I hear the “deep state” wants to stop you from eating rotting food. You’re not going to let a bunch of scientists and health department officials tell you what to eat, are you?

    /s just in case.

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    If they want to drink raw milk and cough their lungs out; I am not going to stop them. The conservatives clearly wish to be left alone in their stupidity and lack of education, and we can’t force them to pursue knowledge.

    I also suspect that the bird flu (H5N1) is not (as of yet, at the time this post was written…) likely to mutate to spread in a human-to-human context. It’s not impossible for it to do so though…but the mutation(s) have not yet reached a point where humans can pass it on to each other by breathing the same air; I would guess that a significant contact (Like breathing, eating or touching a very very very large amount of a bodily output that contains the virus) is likely needed to spread that virus; as that’s how it’s spread from animal to human so far. TL;DR: I could be wrong; but I don’t believe it’s capable of a pandemic yet. Science has not yet presented enough strong evidence that this is spreading from person to person. I welcome any citations to prove that wrong however. Thankfully I’m not conservative, and do welcome being shown that my suppositions are indeed wrong; as long as it’s done respectfully.

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      The conservatives clearly wish to be left alone in their stupidity

      No, no they do not. They feel compelled to force their stupidity on everyone. I guarantee you, there will be bills brought to the floor that require raw milk to be served at elementary schools.

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        there will be bills brought to the floor that require raw milk to be served at elementary schools.

        So prove that is what they are doing. Otherwise your argument is just pure hyperbole. I get that conservatives are dangerously stupid; but don’t spread falsehoods; that’s how they get a turn at the stump to convince more people to join their stupid cause.

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          Prove that there will be bills brought to the floor?

          Are you aware of the concept of cause and effect? Or maybe you have a time machine or something?

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          I didn’t say they are doing it, I said they will. It’s a prediction of the future based on past behavior. Only time will tell if my prediction is correct.

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      I also suspect that the bird flu (H5N1) is not (as of yet, at the time this post was written…) likely to mutate to spread in a human-to-human context.

      If you are infected with multiple flu strains at the same time, the viruses can recombine and yield a new strain. That is substantially more chance to get a human-to-human transmissible H5N1 than just by mutation alone (which is still something that should not be underestimated - flu mutates like crazy). There is a reason why virologists warn about H5N1 as the likely candidate for the next pandemic.

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        Just because it can, does not mean it will. I’ve yet to see any hard evidence of probabilities either; but I welcome any evidence one might present to that effect. I am always skeptical of science news reporting; as oftentimes they blow things out of proportion.

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      H5N1 isn’t going to be the last virus. The next time they cough their lungs out, it could be contagious.

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      They’ve done it before, they’ll do it again. Just give it time and with abundance of idiots helping it along, soon the Maga bird flu will be the hot new COVID.

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      This is exactly it for the vast majority of them. And there’s a minority that have been duped into believing there are legitimate benefits.

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      You know what? We should probably deny vaccinations, unions, and “love thy neighbor”… The world would be a better place

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    Are they or is that just what the media wants us to believe? I hear the “left” is obsessed with all kinds of things too yet I never seem to encounter these people outside of social media.

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    I wonder if the GOP really thought this through. First, they try to breed more uneducated Americans, so they have a voter base that is stupid enough to vote conservative, and then they kill them off by a combination of an antivaxx mindset and unhealthy food that promotes an incoming pandemic virus.

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      They thought it through… Throughout every step of the process, they’re making money hand over fist.

      They want this. They want a form of neo-feudalism where they’re the warlords, and everyone else that’s left is their subject.

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    Okay so they’re not getting vaccinated and now they’re guzzling unpasteurised milk whilst cattle all over the US are dying of this latest bird flu?

    I’m starting to think this right-wing shift might sort itself out

    (Before anyone says, I know this is very bad for avoiding another pandemic which won’t care about how you vote)

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        And millions of “smarts” were so “smart” that they decided they didn’t need to vote again after 2020, and as a result, the “dumbs” are in power.

        So who’s really dumb, here?

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        No, we made the mistake of doing everything thing we could to make them get vaccinated.

        Next time we know better.

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          New ad campaign:

          “You survived COVID, even though the liberals tried to get you to vaccinate. You haven’t vaccinated to this day because you have an immune system. You’re conservative and strong. So when the liberals try again with bird flu, monkey pox, or whatever animal disease they come up with next, just tell them, ‘No thank you.’” Make sure the video playing along with the words shows strong manly men - white, of course - with rugged good looks, wearing outdoorsy clothes, doing manly stuff. Guaranteed to convince a bunch of insecure conservative douchebags not to vaccinate. Again.

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      You don’t really need the bird flu in that mix, even. Pasteurization was a huge public health win.

      What next, fridges are woke nanny state inventions and real red-blooded Americans store all their food in room temperature, especially their raw milk and meat?

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        To be fair since Pasteur we have made enormous progress in refrigeration and supply lines, so if the cow is healthy, and the raw milk is fresh, you should be fine. The main issue is that you should treat the milk in your fridge like something that spoils quickly (like fish), rather than something that can stay in the fridge safely for a week or two. Of course if the cow is sick none of this applies, so it has to come from a trusted source.

        TLDR; raw milk can be okay if you are taking far more precautions than you normally would with milk.

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        Nah, fridges are convenient. That’s what makes the beer taste good!

        There is a definite interest in learning older preservation techniques. I’m not sure how it lines up with political beliefs, though. For any that do, the big trick was salt - lots of salt. If they are above a certain age, it’s likely to do some damage based on the rest of our modern lifestyle.

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          Well I am progressive as fuck politically and somewhat crunchy lifestyle -wise. Garden, ferment things, have made bread exclusively from sourdough for about 15 years now, really enjoy fermented foods like kimchi and pickles and sauerkraut.

          The other fermenter in our family is the literal racist uncle, he makes incredible homemade foods, raised me a turkey for Thanksgiving one year, even.

          Both of us came to it from a culinary background, not a political one, a way to get good food. I don’t think it maps well, but there is certainly a subset of crunchy lifestyle people who started out progressive and were coopted by the right wing.

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          There are some more ways, usually involving fermentation. Us arctic types know some methods. But I get the impression rakfisk, lutefisk, hákarl, surströmming and kiviak would have caught on as exports by now if they were actually something humans in general were interested in eating, rather than the descendants of very specific kinds of desperate people.

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            […]would have caught on as exports by now if they were actually something humans in general were interested in eating, rather than the descendants of very specific kinds of desperate people.

            That’s the most eloquent thing I’ve read this week.

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              Nothing to be ashamed about! There’s lots of stuff around the world that some people love but the majority shy away from. All the rest of us can ask is that you enjoy it responsibly and don’t bother other people with the smell. :)

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          Food preservation lines up very well with conservative and libertarian plans. I even know if your number of Democrats that enjoy preserving food. Dehydrating, canning, pickling or all cheap and easy. The more extremes in conservative and libertarian also seemed to like freeze drying. I have to admit I kind of like freeze drying myself but the machine is so freaking expensive and then it consumes so much power, you can literally buy commercially freeze dried food cheaper than you can make it yourself and that does not get better at any reasonable home scale.

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      No no no no. Just megadose on vitamin C and take since herbal remedies of questionable origin. You’ll be just fine. And if you’re not then we’ll just blame you for not living a healthy enough lifestyle.

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      You won’t. When Kennedy is in charge of “health”, vaccine promoters will probably be crucified.