Actual sex ed is, as usual, the answer to these kinds of situations. I’d guess way more critically so for the Civic boy than Pony’s daughter, since Pony seems open to actually discussing some shit with her daughter, especially if Civic boy actually gives a fuck about virginity.
…oh, and guillotine construction. Definitely don’t forget the guillotine construction.
Women: Lmao men with small penises are subhuman xddd
Also women: Why are men so insecure about their penis size
This is far too radical.
The Honda Civic is a reliable car with a solid price point.
I traded up my civic for a bolt. It felt civic-minded. Cuz man i got the lemon.
Loved that civic, but zero regrets. This ev is way better.
I love my Honda Civic!
That was 6 years ago now. How time flies. <3
Here’s the best feature a car can ever have.
Kitties on the dashboard screen!!
Here’s a more recent picture. One of the wheels had a valve stem hole that wasn’t in line with a lugnut hole, meaning the wheel covers wouldn’t fit. I bought an OEM wheel to replace it and put the wheel covers on, and it looks way better now.
What model year is that? My dash looked nothing like that, but was way old, like 2012 or so.
That first pic makes it look like a Subaru.
I have a Honda and love it too.
I had an EG hatch back in the day, now a WRX. The Civic was more fun. The Subaru makes me feel grown up. Gotta do all these adult things like change the gearbox fluid when you’re actually supposed to, else the gearbox explodes like a dropped beer.
Not the modern ones. They eat headgaskets for brekky and aren’t nearly cheap enough
🎵Drive a Civic, drive a Civic🎵 (backup vocals) 🎶A car you caaan trust!🎶
Yeah, and my dick is big godamnit.
I think Pony is speaking from experience. She must have had a bad time in that car.
A Ford Fiesta then
“I refuse to teach my daughter about virginity. I will instead teach her to judge a man by his car and penis size.”
Ever shove a pipe cleaner down your peehole?
You’re thinking of the P-Spot
As if anyone learns about the concept from their mom anyway.
I feel like this point could be made without insulting her daughter’s future partner
Imagine how he must feel
Yes. You can remove the exaggeration from jokes to turn them into statements and make a point.
The point made in this joke is that the size of a manz boxers and bank account determine his worth.
That is what our patriarchy teaches us, is it not? That we must be providers and fertile to have value. It’s our role as men, no?
providing and fertilizing are good things. expensive cars are bad things.
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Will someone please think of the hypothetical children!
Or the Civic!
Let’s smash the patriarchy without classist bullshit. The implication here is that only a man with an expensive car could possibly be taken seriously as a romantic partner.
What a stupid take.
Virginity is special because it’s your first time doing something very intense, intimiate and potentially painful and overwhelming. You need it to be with someone who cares about you so they can make it a good experience. It’s not some victorian-purity BS, it’s actually practically sound.
Disagree, there is nothing special about virginity. I was 18 and horny, I just wanted to get some dick so I did.
It should at a minimum be with someone who also wants you to have fun too, but past that it’s not special at all.
Yeah that makes you somewhat of an outlier. Most are below 18 and want it to be with someone they care about
But i think that’s exactly the point being made, there shouldn’t be that much pressure on it because it is very often disappointing. Building it up in your head as a moment that will define you often has no benefit to your life.
Bible shaggers will disagree for obvious reasons, but nobody is going to them for measured romantic and sexual advice.
Have sex when you feel ready. Make it special if you want to. No need to make it an implicit societal pressure.
It’s disappointing because we don’t talk more about what it should be like. We don’t expect men to do better about it. If someone had taught me how important it was and what things were at stake for women’s first time, I’d have done it a lot differently.
Many women, if not nearly all, carry trauma from their first time as well.
I think thats exactly why this sentiment is being fielded.
It allows a separation from what can easily be a less than pleasant experience that society often puts a lot of pressure on.
That actually makes it worse. Trauma is healed by being acknowledged, not trivialized.
Consider the consequences of associating what you consider a defining moment of your sexual identity with trauma, forever.
Consider then, a mindset where that moment does not define your sexual identity.
In which scenario would you expect to feel better.
What you’re saying is how to deal with an event after it happens, the topic here is how to shape your expectations before the event, to avoid a worse fallout. Regardless of how negative the experience is.
It should be talked about, in that we agree. Sex ed should include what to do, what to expect, and how to have fun as well as protecting oneself.
I am also a woman and I have no trauma from my first time. It was with my bf at the time, but it still wasn’t anything special.
Unfortunately the fact that it wasn’t traumatizing is pretty special, you just never needed to find that out fortunately
I would like a source on most if not all women experience trauma from losing their virginity. Because my experience really isn’t that special.
It was fumbling, silly, nervous, sure. But not traumatic.
Again, disagree. The average is not much younger than I was, 17 is closer to average (at least in the US). And I didn’t say it shouldn’t be with someone you care about, I said, there is nothing special about virginity.
First times of everything is considered special throughout all cultures, it goes without say that the more intense and intimate the more special.
I’m not going to argue with another woman just because I disagree, just know that I’m not that much of an outlier and virginity doesn’t have to be some special thing. It’s just penis in vagina or other variations of genitals that one’s satisfy sexual orientation. Not all women carry trauma from the first time having sex, I carry no trauma other than he couldn’t finish because he was nervous.
If we stop treating it like it’s something special and instead as a natural part of life, maybe people can talk about it more openly instead of treating it like it’s a taboo subject.
I’m happy to hear that for you.
I don’t know a single woman who’s not been traumatized by their first time.
And I know plenty who haven’t been traumatized. Anecdotes aren’t evidence.
What if you weren’t lucky enough to have that experience though?
It’s not worth a life-time of disappointment and self loathing.
Maybe the message ought to be about caution around sex generally rather than a single experience.
Virginity is special because it’s your first time doing something very intense, intimiate and potentially painful and overwhelming.
Why doesn’t karaoke get the same special category?
You need it to be with someone who cares about you so they can make it a good experience
Nah. Can help. Can hurt. Not a requirement.
Because in karaoke your genital orifice is not penetrated by a foreign object for the first time
Karaoke is way more intense than sex if we’re being honest. Like the vast majority of people lose their virginity all on their own with no financial incentive, but a huge chunk of people wouldn’t sing karaoke ever, even if you offered them like ten bucks
Karaoke is not a comparable situation regardless
Seems like it has been compared just fine!
well now you tell me.
Lmao
So? Why should sex be special cased?
Clearly not because
it’s your first time doing something very intense, intimiate and potentially painful and overwhelming.
because then we’d have karaoke virginity too. And many other things.
So for you karaoke and being internally penetrated is similar, that’s fine. But I’m assuming you have the command of your senses to realize that this is not a normal point of view, peobably not a healthy one either.
Similar in that they can both be, your words, “intense, intimiate and potentially painful and overwhelming.”.
I’m going to argue that the “normal” point of view that holds losing your virginity as a big fucking deal (pun intended) is in fact unhealthy. It’s often bundled up with patriarchy. It really doesn’t need to have all the brouhaha. That creates a lot of misery and hangups.
You’re not proving that it should be a special case. You’re just acting like it’s self evident.
Incidentally,
You need it to be with someone who cares about you so they can make it a good experience
Also applies to karaoke.
So I don’t believe you when you say
It’s not some victorian-purity BS,
Yeah, go tell sone of your female friends in real life that karaoke is comparable to their first time.
I’m sure you will, because they’re totally comparable and you’re not a troll, right?
I’ll wait for your screenshot showing how they reacted.
No further replies until then.
You’re doing a bad job of arguing. You made a claim. I offered a trivial counter. You’re not updating your claim. You’re just saying “nuh-uh”.
You could try arguing that the degree is different, but as someone said that’s not true for everyone. Some people are really casual about sex! From the start! And some people would never, ever, do karaoke.
Even if you were factually correct (you are not) your argument is structurally unsound.
I’ll see what my friends say in the morning
