• jtrek@startrek.website
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    4 hours ago

    Virginity is special because it’s your first time doing something very intense, intimiate and potentially painful and overwhelming.

    Why doesn’t karaoke get the same special category?

    You need it to be with someone who cares about you so they can make it a good experience

    Nah. Can help. Can hurt. Not a requirement.

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      3 hours ago

      Because in karaoke your genital orifice is not penetrated by a foreign object for the first time

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        Karaoke is way more intense than sex if we’re being honest. Like the vast majority of people lose their virginity all on their own with no financial incentive, but a huge chunk of people wouldn’t sing karaoke ever, even if you offered them like ten bucks

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        So? Why should sex be special cased?

        Clearly not because

        it’s your first time doing something very intense, intimiate and potentially painful and overwhelming.

        because then we’d have karaoke virginity too. And many other things.

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          So for you karaoke and being internally penetrated is similar, that’s fine. But I’m assuming you have the command of your senses to realize that this is not a normal point of view, peobably not a healthy one either.

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            2 hours ago

            Similar in that they can both be, your words, “intense, intimiate and potentially painful and overwhelming.”.

            I’m going to argue that the “normal” point of view that holds losing your virginity as a big fucking deal (pun intended) is in fact unhealthy. It’s often bundled up with patriarchy. It really doesn’t need to have all the brouhaha. That creates a lot of misery and hangups.

            You’re not proving that it should be a special case. You’re just acting like it’s self evident.

            Incidentally,

            You need it to be with someone who cares about you so they can make it a good experience

            Also applies to karaoke.

            So I don’t believe you when you say

            It’s not some victorian-purity BS,

            • Zensate@lemmy.world
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              2 hours ago

              Yeah, go tell sone of your female friends in real life that karaoke is comparable to their first time.

              I’m sure you will, because they’re totally comparable and you’re not a troll, right?

              I’ll wait for your screenshot showing how they reacted.

              No further replies until then.

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                2 hours ago

                You’re doing a bad job of arguing. You made a claim. I offered a trivial counter. You’re not updating your claim. You’re just saying “nuh-uh”.

                You could try arguing that the degree is different, but as someone said that’s not true for everyone. Some people are really casual about sex! From the start! And some people would never, ever, do karaoke.

                Even if you were factually correct (you are not) your argument is structurally unsound.

                I’ll see what my friends say in the morning