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This isnt related solely to Glyphosate, but in Germany Parkinson is being recognised as a “condition caused by working co editions” for farmers and Thier exposure to herbicides (etc.) in general
They want to unban gyphosphate so that CERTAIN countries dropping it on their neighbouring country’s fields doesn’t count as committing a warcrime.
Science is only political because scientists have to continuously convince politicians reality exists.
It’s frustrating that something like climate change is even a political discussion at all. Don’t Look Up captured that frustration really well.
Convincing people your interpretation of reality exists is literally all that politics is.
Unfortunately, despite being correct, science is also an interpretation of reality.
Convincing people your interpretation of reality exists is literally all that politics is.
What? No. No, no, you naive fool… many politicians, if not most, don’t believe most of what they’re selling, and don’t give a flying fuck about it.
They’ll sell whatever line the party they’re working for wants them to sell, and they’d just as happily sell the opposition party’s line if it paid better and they could switch without being called a turncoat.
Also, it’s not about convincing people about specific beliefs; most people are mostly already convinced of their worldviews and if they change them it won’t be because of some politician. It’s about convincing them, despite all evidence to the contrary, that the politician shares those beliefs, and will impose them on people who don’t if they vote for them.
despite being correct, science is also an interpretation of reality.
Again, no. Science (except for mathematics, but that’s it’s own thing) doesn’t and shouldn’t ever claim to be correct.
It’s the most accurate approximation we have so far of how nature works, but it’s constantly trying to achieve better approximations, and will happily throw away the old ones when it finds a better one.
It also should always make very clear that it’s an approximation or a description, not an interpretation. Science should always be objective, never subjective, and interpretations are by definition subjective.
Convincing people is war. Exerting power is politics.
I think we need politics to go beyond one reality, and embrace a subjective multiverse where people can perceive what they want to perceive.
If only the idiots could just piss off to their own multiverse of idiocy and leave the rest of us alone
That’s called, Texas and also Florida we should let them secede.
I would be happy if I didn’t have to share a universe with realists, but the thing about realists is, they’re not happy to let that happen. They think there’s only one universe. They psychologically abuse our kind to try to get us back to their reality.
I have a friend named Sonic who’s an introject. He appeared in someone else’s head one day, having been assembled from thoughts about video games and comic books. He tried to get help from a psychologist with his mental health. Instead of helping him, she told him he doesn’t exist and tried to erase him. She messed him up so bad, he tried to commit suicide, tried to destroy the body he lives in and everyone else who lives in it, just to prove he could have an effect on the world, that he exists.
He’s doing a lot better now that he’s surrounded by antirealists and he isn’t seeing that psychologist anymore.
I want to be very clear here, it was my schizo meltdown, not Grail’s. And more properly, it was Sonic’s meltdown, and it probably ties into out dissociative symptoms more than whatever schizo-spectrum whatever we have going on.
TIL the multiverse instance has someone other than Grail. But, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s perfectly in line with yall’s belief that you all are actually personalities of one dude, who might not even exist anyway.
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Cool cool cool so the climate is pretty fucked and now the way people have lived for millennia will cease to be possible. But at least we were open minded about delusion.
You can invent a vaccine, but getting people to take it is a different matter entirely and not just because of politicians.
Andrew Wakefield managed to fuck up people’s attitude towards vaccines quite well without politics.
Inserting things under people’s skin just freaks people out in general. There are so many reasons.
They also have to continually convince politicians and other politically minded people to give them money, and risk having it taken away if their results are politically inconvenient.
Whether climate change is occurring, what damage it’s doing and what’s causing it are scientific questions. How to address it is a set of political questions: How do we get humanity to emit less greenhouse gases? How do we get countries on the same page? How do we make sure that the effects of these changes don’t increase global inequality?
The scientific questions have been answered very well, and are continuing to be answered in more detail all the time.
The response to the political questions has been an abject failure so far.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
Upton Sinclair
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doesn’t harm organic tissue
Which is totally why Bayer has settled their lawsuit for several billions of dollars over claims that it causes lymphoma.
Edit: also, plants are organic tissue.
Also, the stomach’s microbiome isn’t plants…
Your stomach microbiome is plants
Which is why I spend a solid 3 hours a day facing the sun with my mouth held wide open. Gotta let my tummy plants photosynthesize somehow.
You say that as a joke but I’m pretty sure this clown is also one of the quacks who regularly talked about the “health benefits” of butthole tanning.
I once saw him (in person) give a drunken, sloppy, rambling speech to a bunch of high schoolers back in 1999. Calling him a clown is an insult to clowns.
Bacteria is not in the kingdom plantae.
Your stomach micro biome is plants.
That’s interesting. I wonder where the sunlight gets in to my stomach for all those plants to photosynthesize.
Rfk seems to think the sun shines out his asshole.
He thinks so, but, no that’s just a mysterious emissive liquid that he drinks every morning.
“We all need sunshine”
You eat it, duh!
That’s why you’re sick. You need to constantly be in the sun without sunscreen, look at RFK jr’s healthy glow as a good example of prime health.
If you’re not feeding your tummy plants with the sunlight it needs you’re not living healthy.
your sick
your not feeding
your not living
“You’re” means “you are”. “Your” means “belonging to you”.
“my sick?”
Thanks, I forget to proofread my comments
Vampires are about to start a protest.
hes overbaked from the tanning salon.
Drink Capri Sun and sunny d
Use the same covid UV lamp as was inserted in 2020.
That’s why you have to occasionally stick your arse in the air on a sunny day. Do it near a school or local park. You’ll be fine, if anyone asks tell them JFK said to.
*RFK
Non organic plants at that
Funny that in Spanish it’s called “flora intestinal”, not “fauna intestinal”. Always though that it’s a but of a misnomer.
Intestinal flora is a common phrase in English, too. Or “gut flora”. It’s one of those old 19th century scientific phrases which has stuck around.
Like this, err, gentleman (who apparently wants to drag us back to that past) we used to believe gut bacteria to be plant-based. Science caught up, but the term has had sticking power. It seems to be a favorite of marketers of probiotic supplements.
“Microbiota” or just the straightforward “gut bacteria” would be more accurate and modern. But of course, everyone except for this guy already knows that.
Did he read/hear about gut flora somewhere, and get his eggs scrambled?
there is valid science in gut microbiome, the Pseudoscience take on is, the "leaky gut, or inflammatory diet bs.
We also just call it “gut flora” in english too
Funny that you believe RFK Jr believes in bacteria. Dude doesn’t believe in germ theory
Well it’s only a theory has anyone actually met a germ?
Germs are just dirty microscopes. Have you ever seen one with the naked eye?
There’s a whole country
Sometimes I have this weird theory that RFK Jr is really like a Dr. Zoidberg type alien in a skin suit. He just kind of guesses at how human anatomy works because he isn’t human himself and isn’t professional enough to get a real education on the subject.
“I took the liberty of fertilizing your caviar”
– RFK jr
At least Zoidberg means well, RFK Jr. has more in common with the brain slugs or the gas station egg salad sandwiches
If it’s his brain worms speaking, that would explain a lot.
It’s hard to say what’s more farfetched, that he is a Zoidbergian alien, or that The Kennedys were just raised that far from any level of anything resembling actual human reality?
heredetary power is a form of abuse.
Here’s the new theory I’m pushing:
Have you ever seen RFK in the same room as the Necronomicon? Just something to think about.
Eerily accurate
well actually the aliens in the MIB controlling the meat suit.
this is the best response ✅
He contradicts himself even in his own wacky theories
Considering wacky theories have a tendency to contradict each other (and itself) it would be far more impressive if his wacky theories weren’t contradictory.
One with frontotemporal dementia that has rapidly shrinking brain, the other one with half a brain eaten by the worm… in what fucking timeline do we live… feels like Rick and Morty episode… fuck. me.
destroyed by HEROIN worms.
Heroin-fueled brain worms, allegedly contracted from (knowingly and voluntarily) eating rotten meat on a semi regular basis*
he did train an falcon to bring him RATS to eat.
The timeline where Americans collectively lose their minds and make shit loads of money uploading youtube videos about it.
I can’t tell if this is supposed to be for or against glyphosate?
Depends who is making money.
He seems to be… pro-celiac?
Real red blooded manly Americans only eat the rawest red meat directly from the carcas and have no need to worry about celiac disease like some girly communist liberal soy boy would.
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Hmm gluten free mettbrötchen
Same! If it’s an errant argument against glyphosate, I guess I’ll take it? Or is it a stance that celiac is no big deal and we should put more glyphosate in our food?
" it is unequivocal that exposure to glyphosate produces important alterations in the structure and function of the nervous system of humans, rodents, fish, and invertebrates."
Glyphosate has also been linked to gluten intolerance: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3945755/
Maybe at some point, all the “gluten free” products will switch to “glyphosate free”. Until then, I’ve been buying imported flour from Italy, where its use is significantly more regulated than here in the US, although not entirely banned.
So following this logic, am I a plant?
Who told you to say that‽
Who do you work for!?!
Everything is political, and there has never been a time that proves that better than now.
The fact that all of a sudden writing with a Sharpie is a political statement is baffling.
I remember that when Roundup first came out, glyphosate was being held up as a brilliant example of herbicide design since it inhibits a vital metabolic pathway in plants that animals don’t have. They even claimed that the surfactants in Roundup were more harmful than the glyphosate itself. I guess that claim didn’t hold up too well.
some weeds already have become resistant to it, not all but sooner or later more and more will be selected for it.
Of course science is political. Knowledge is power and all power systems are political.
But ignoring philosophy, Science is a charity. By in large they must beg for their money. You don’t suppose that the people providing the money have any influence?
And I’m not talking about junk science, biased studies, or even fraud. A perfectly run study may still be political simply because it was chosen for funding over something else.
It’s a little more complex than that. Some things:
- https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2021/09/02/book-review-dark-academia-how-universities-die-by-peter-fleming/
- https://massivesci.com/articles/chaos-in-the-brickyard-comic-matteo-farinella/
It’s a structural problem, but still the same problem plaguing the rest of society at the moment.
It looks like you all snuffed some TetraFunkoTetris
By in large
