• dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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    It’s slightly less absurd than that, I guess, because modern smartphones do at least still have telephone functionality.

    Plenty of kids I grew up with also called Nintendo and Atari cartridges “tapes.” It made sense from an ergonomic standpoint and from the point of view of someone who had no interest in understanding what was actually going on inside the machine. It’s a rectangular plastic thing you put in the machine to make it play whatever it says on the label. Just like a VHS tape, see? Same same.

    The thing with tape was that it described the actual medium inside the casing, all the way back to the time before the tape itself came in the casing and was just loose on a spool. This would have been state of the art in the 1960’s. It’s possible that Original Series Star Trek foresaw the possibility of solid state-ish storage with no tape reels inside, but probably not. (Their computers also exhibit a distressing lack of displays, so I’m not sure the producers were too good at being prescient.) And for what it’s worth, I do know a few oldsters who now call the various small card based flash media formats “memory chips,” which I guess is pretty close to accurate. TnG did this too with their “isolinear chips,” whatever the hell those were supposed to be made of.

    Anyway, we do have a limited selection of “phones” without the phone feature, e.g. things like the iPod Touch which was basically an early-gen iPhone with the phone cut out. Nobody could really decide what to call these, with the closest thing to a standard being “pocket media players,” which turns into the rather non-melodious “PMP.” (With this I guess we missed the chance to call wi-fi enabled variants “pocket internet media players,” and therefore have the opportunity to label these “PIMPs,” which is obviously much cooler.)

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      upvoted for all the work you put into that, but our judges would have accepted “technically not true”.

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      To jump on with this, sometime in TV, especially with sports broadcasts or recaps, I still hear hosts say something like, “let’s go to the videotape” even though basically no one is using tape anymore for these things.

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      Plenty of kids I grew up with also called Nintendo and Atari cartridges “tapes.”

      Our household referred to NES cartridges as “tapes”, as well. I think for our family, it came from us frequenting a local video rental store, usually once a week. We’d pick up some movies and some games every time we’d go. It started with just movies, though, because our local store didn’t carry games at first. But once we started renting games there, we just kept called everything in the bag “tapes”.

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    This sort of icon is still used in software all over the world:

    I honestly couldn’t tell you the last time I used a floppy disk.

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    My favorite thing about smartphones is that the “call” icon is an old-school telephone handset. I’ll bet younger people have never thought about what that thing is even supposed to be. My second-favorite is the gear icon for “settings” - like, what the fuck does a gear ring have to do with a list of options you can select? That isn’t even remotely close to what gears are used for in real-world mechanical devices.

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      Even my two year old can recognize a telephone handset, pick it up and hold it to her ear while saying “Hewwo?”

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      I’ll bet younger people have never thought about what that thing is even supposed to be.

      Oh cmon.

      Yes, this supposedly (according to some meme) happened with the save symbol, because a floppy is actually something a lot of today’s people have never seen or touched.

      That sort of a handset for a telephone though? Do you think they haven’t seen shows or movies? Never saw a playset with a very classic model plastic phones?

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      One time I heard a colleague called the settings/gear icon in Windows a flower. I’ve also heard somebody refer to the PuTTY icon as “the two penguins”

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    It’s hard for people to understand, but there was a time from the late 70’s to early 80’s where after a screen “transition” whatever came up next on the screen was called a “new page”.

    So if you were playing Intellivision AD&D going in a dungeon from the overworld was a “new page”. Or playing Karate Champ… going from the Title Screen to the Fight Mechanics part was thought of as a “new page”. Beating the first maze arrangement of Ms Pac Man would bring you to the next maze on “page 2”.

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      I hear the snake/dragon. Quick, press the button and count how many “bips” you hear to see if you have enough arrows!

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        They explicitly are talking about movies and nobody uses the term page when talking about different scenes anymore.

        How does the internet fit in here? They’re not saying we as a society moved away from the concept of pages…

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          Intellivision was a game console that came with the game Burger Time. It had many amazing (for the time- 1980s) games, such as Snafu, Metroid, and Advanced Dungeons & Dragons: Minotaur.

          I still have mine, but it no longer works. Big nostalgia, it looked like this:Very basic not even 3d walls graphics with a figure standing. Arbitrary numbers provide HP as there is no armour. Spells, bows, or attacks were more complex though.Very bright colours with no shading; Mintotaur was Purple

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          Transcription: Very basic not even 3d walls graphics with a figure standing. Arbitrary numbers provide HP as there is no armour. Spells, bows, or attacks were more complex though. Very bright colours with no shading; Minotaur was Purple.

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    My grandmother said the same when I showed her a Motorola Droid in 2009. She said “that’s a pocket computer”.

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    No it’s not… Because we know what a cellphone is.

    In star trek they called it tapes because they didn’t know what they would be called in the future.

    Moreover, it’s called a cellphone as a colloquial term. They’re correct nomenclature is “smartphone”.

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      Contemporaneously, in some of Larry Nivens’ fiction, it was called a “data brick”.

      When you feel like you are getting too attached to the metaphor of the hour, abstract it up a level.

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      You’re going to play “moreover” and “nomenclature” then fuck up a “they’re/their”? Hang your head.

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    Is it worse that I still call them “telephones”?

    p.s. I am British, which gives me some allowance for using strange, historical words.

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      To me, I’ve always associated the PDA with devices w/o the phone capability, pre-smartphones. Those existed. Looked similar to modern smartphones, just bulkier and with less capability. That’s been the distinction for me.

      Frankly, the only other word for (cell)phone or mobile has been smartphone. I don’t think we have a better word for them yet (pocket computer just doesn’t grab you).

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      They didn’t catch on because in the era they existed it was very difficult to achieve any kind of connectivity with them to the outside world. By the time that was able to be ubiquitous, smartphones were already happening.