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    Customer: “can I get a coffee, black?”

    Robinson: “can’t you see I’m talkin, white?”

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    In latin america we say “Mi negro, mi flaco, mi gordo, mi pelado” (“My black, my skinny, my fatty, my baldie”) and could not care less. Sometimes even to strangers.

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      Wait, what would the problem be with asking for a café solo?

      ¿Cómo se dice “black” en español?

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        I think the Spanish word for black is N
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              It’s not taboo in Spanish. It’s literally how you say black.

              right, but if the dude in the comic gets nervous and has an issue saying black in English
              then it would be multiplied if he said it in Spanish

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            Look, there’s half a billion of us and I’m not gonna reject the possibility that wherever you’re from people say “café negro” for some reason, but yeah, no, it’s “café solo” as far as I’m concerned. You might as well call café con leche “café beige”.

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              Look, there’s half a billion of us and I’m not gonna reject the possibility that wherever you’re from people say “café negro” for some reason, but yeah, no,

              Go to Google Maps and search for the phrase: “Cafe Negro Mexico”
              There are several cafes named that and if you search South America there are some there too.
              Here’s one in Mexico City:

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              Most The first majority of Spanish speaking people are Mexican. We ask for café negro. Now, the interesting part is that if you want a café negro in any cafe, and you feel awkward about it, you can ask for a café americano. It’s curious how the café negro in this setup is the “American coffee”. Then again, we don’t think America is America, we understand America as the Americas.

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              My first time in Spain I asked for café negro and was corrected to say con leche. Not in a ‘that’s racist’ kind of way, but in a ‘that is inaccurate, even though we understand’ way.

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                “Café negro” (which I’ve never heard for black coffee) would be “Café solo” or “Café sin leche” (literally, “coffee by itself”, or “coffee without milk”). “Café con leche” would be coffee with milk, which definitely is not black coffee.

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                  Ok I remembered wrong. It must have been sin leche that they corrected me with. It was a long time ago and I haven’t spoke any Spanish since!

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      Espresso != A regular black coffee. Espresso is way more concentrated, and is brewed using pressure. Regular black coffee implies the drip method.

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        Or Perc. Black coffee could mean perc. But that really only happens in places that still think it’s the 50’s.

        (No judgement. Those diners are amazing, and better coffee than fartbucks.)

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          No judgement. Those diners are amazing, and better coffee than fartbucks

          I’ve never come across a place that uses a perc and doesnt burn their coffee, so honestly I find Starbucks better on that alone

          But the shitty espresso I can pull on my mr coffee beats both by miles

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            But Starbucks coffee is also burned, but more because the beans are roasted too hard (which makes sense if you’re going to pour one espresso into a pint of milk, but it sucks if you drink it without milk).

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              The coffee isn’t burned (at least if you order espresso), the beans are, but the beans at the place using the percolator is also using cheap, burnt beans AND burning the coffee with a percolator

              Neither is close to ideal coffee, but for me one is far worse

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            That’s an inherent flaw of the classic US percolators, where the coffee drips back down into the boiling water. It’s near impossible to not burn st least some of the coffee. Even basic filter coffee is usually better.

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              Are there other types of percolators? I thought the recirculation and constant heating of the reservoir were required features.

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                The recirculation of the coffee is not strictly necessary. Sure, it wouldn’t be a classic American percolator but there are other coffee makers that work by very similar principles but without burning your coffee (like drip brew filter coffee machines or my favorite, moka pots). Percolated in general just means “filtered” or “strained”.

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          I think cowboy coffee can also be referred to as just black. But nobody in their right minds drinks that anymore.

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            My in-law makes cowboy coffee in a great big kettle on the stove when all the kids arrive for the holidays and it’s actually some of the best coffee I’ve ever had. What trips me out is that he drinks crappy pod coffee the rest of the year.

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            I guess I’m not in my right mind then. At home cowboy coffee only, I don’t even have a French press or a v60. Although in my country we call it tramp coffee.

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              Neat! I’ve always heard it’s super gross. But I guess anything can be done well, and the gross stuff was probably due to lack of care.

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        for the rest of the world normal is espresso and the thing with drip or wtv doesn’t even exist.

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          Nah, it’s not just murica. Here in Germany for example, if you order a cup of coffee you usually get filter coffee. If you want espresso, you have to order espresso.

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          That’s not true in most of northern, central or eastern europe, and arab coffee drinkers traditionally use neither.

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        In your area, that may be true. Around here, and by experience in a good chunk of southern Europe, asking for a coffee will get you an espresso 100% of the time.

        Asking for drip coffee will probably get you scorned and sent off, or if they’re nice they may offer to make you instant coffee if they have it.

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          Scorned? Lol, what a bunch of prudes. Some people just can’t let others enjoy things. Espresso used to be considered hoity toity here in Canada, but that was years ago. It’s pretty normalized now.

          I was under the impression that even if it was the norm, espressos were always referred to as espressos. Neat. I know a good chunk of the world also heavily uses French presses in their coffee making, but the end result is functionally similar to drip coffee.

          Edit: I believe I’ve been misunderstood. Not having drip coffee doesn’t make one a prude. Scorning others for their preferred beverage preparation makes one a prude.

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            Not sure I’d call them prudes, it’s just that anywhere that serves coffee - every coffee shop, restaurant, bakery, pub, etc - has a grinder and a “professional” (multiple taps) espresso machine, it’s just “standard” - I don’t think I’ve seen a coffee pot other than in niche American-styled dinners, or hotels for tourists. Asking for an Americano is a thing though, but what you get is an espresso in a mug. The “drip” variety usually tastes either very bland or quite burnt, and doesn’t punch the same way, so the common view is that it’s “watered down” coffee and not well regarded.

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              I believe I’ve been misunderstood. Not having drip coffee doesn’t make one a prude. Scorning others for their preferred beverage preparation makes one a prude.

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              Not sure about mainland Europe, but in the UK at least, lots of places offer filter coffee and/or V60 in addition to the standard espresso

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            In southern Europe, almost everywhere has an espresso machine. Only fancy hipster coffee shops have filter coffee. They’re not prudes, they just dont see the point in having to have a completely separate machine for coffee that only gets used once a week just to accommodate a bunch of annoying ass tourists.

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              I believe I’ve been misunderstood. Not having drip coffee doesn’t make one a prude. Scorning others for their preferred beverage preparation makes one a prude.

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                That’s just how it is in many European countries, particularly more towards the south. For them food is sacred and traditional and you can explore whatever crazy stuff you want as long as you do it over there in private and don’t fuck with the classics. In north America this sentiment is much less present though I’ve seen it a bit with poutine for example where they’ll argue about how thick the fries should be and what kind of gravy and etc, but maybe that’s the French heritage at work.

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                  If you want to set off a poutine purist you gotta change the cheese. Trad poutine is exclusively made with cheese curds. Lots of places that sell “poutine”, however, use shredded cheese of some kind or other. Some people go nuts over it, lol.

                  I can definitely understand the heritage part. You can’t just throw a bunch of stuff in a bowl and claim it’s a dish that it is not. Coffee is way more broad and varied than something like cacio e pepe though. I still think it’s pretty stuck-up to scorn someone over how they like to drink it. Coffee has been served many different ways in many different places all over the globe. We don’t have to shun one another over it.

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    A regular coffee is 1 cream and 1 sugar, so the sentence in the first panel is a command. He’s even pointing at the guy while he says it. The nasty racist then backtracks when he notices the barrista’s cold dead stare and realizes he is large enough to snap him in half.

    I’m just joking around, but really the more I think about that first panel, the more it annoys me.

    edit: I wasn’t seriously considering this a racist comic, but pointing out a widely used label and grammar will make the first panel hilariously ironic to many people.

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      I think that’s regional, maybe to east coast US (or just NYC)? Anywhere else I’ve been in the US “regular coffee” referred to black coffee.

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        I’m in Western Canada. As an example, Tim Horton’s calls a regular coffee 1 cream and 1 sugar nationally.

        But, I was only pointing this out because it’s funny considering the point the comic is trying to make.

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          Interesting, didn’t know that it was like that throughout Canada too. None of those options are available to me in the Midwest US. And agree! Definitely think it’s funny to point out, I just was giving more context because I (incorrectly) thought it was only “regular” in a small region.

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            Where are you that still has Tim Hortons? All of the ones in the Twin Cities are no longer in business. I’m slightly disappointed, but based on what I’ve heard from Canadians if I get to try it I’ll probably still be slightly disappointed.

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              There are still quite a few around Ohio. I haven’t been in years though, because yea, it’s disappointing now.

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    Now go look in that box of Crayola for the one that’s gonna trigger the SJWs to fight against a language because some hillbillies used a word as a slur and now live rent-free in everyone’s heads.