In the wooded highlands of northern Arkansas, where small towns have few dentists, water officials who serve more than 20,000 people have for more than a decade openly defied state law by refusing to add fluoride to the drinking water.

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In the wooded highlands of northern Arkansas, where small towns have few dentists, water officials who serve more than 20,000 people have for more than a decade openly defied state law by refusing to add fluoride to the drinking water.

For its refusal, the Ozark Mountain Regional Public Water Authority has received hundreds of state fines amounting to about $130,000, which are stuffed in a cardboard box and left unpaid, said Andy Anderson, who is opposed to fluoridation and has led the water system for nearly two decades.

This Ozark region is among hundreds of rural American communities that face a one-two punch to oral health: a dire shortage of dentists and a lack of fluoridated drinking water, which is widely viewed among dentists as one of the most effective tools to prevent tooth decay. But as the anti-fluoride movement builds unprecedented momentum, it may turn out that the Ozarks were not behind the times after all.

“We will eventually win,” Anderson said. “We will be vindicated.”

Fluoride, a naturally occurring mineral, keeps teeth strong when added to drinking water, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the American Dental Association. But the anti-fluoride movement has been energized since a government report last summer found a possible link between lower IQ in children and consuming amounts of fluoride that are higher than what is recommended in American drinking water. Dozens of communities have decided to stop fluoridating in recent months, and state officials in Florida and Texas have urged their water systems to do the same. Utah is poised to become the first state to ban it in tap water.

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has long espoused fringe health theories, has called fluoride an “industrial waste” and “dangerous neurotoxin” and said the Trump administration will recommend it be removed from all public drinking water.

Separately, Republican efforts to extend tax cuts and shrink federal spending may squeeze Medicaid, which could deepen existing shortages of dentists in rural areas where many residents depend on the federal insurance program for whatever dental care they can find.

Dental experts warn that the simultaneous erosion of Medicaid and fluoridation could exacerbate a crisis of rural oral health and reverse decades of progress against tooth decay, particularly for children and those who rarely see a dentist.

“If you have folks with little access to professional care and no access to water fluoridation,” said Steven Levy, a dentist and leading fluoride researcher at the University of Iowa, “then they are missing two of the big pillars of how to keep healthy for a lifetime.”

Many already are.

Overlapping ‘Dental Deserts’ and Fluoride-Free Zones

Nearly 25 million Americans live in areas without enough dentists — more than twice as many as prior estimates by the federal government — according to a recent study from Harvard University that measured U.S. “dental deserts” with more depth and precision than before.

Hawazin Elani, a Harvard dentist and epidemiologist who co-authored the study, found that many shortage areas are rural and poor, and depend heavily on Medicaid. But many dentists do not accept Medicaid because payments can be low, Elani said.

The ADA has estimated that only a third of dentists treat patients on Medicaid.

“I suspect this situation is much worse for Medicaid beneficiaries,” Elani said. “If you have Medicaid and your nearest dentists do not accept it, then you will likely have to go to the third, or fourth, or the fifth.”

The Harvard study identified over 780 counties where more than half of the residents live in a shortage area. Of those counties, at least 230 also have mostly or completely unfluoridated public drinking water, according to a KFF analysis of fluoride data published by the CDC. That means people in these areas who can’t find a dentist also do not get protection for their teeth from their tap water.

The KFF Health News analysis does not cover the entire nation because it does not include private wells and 13 states do not submit fluoride data to the CDC. But among those that do, most counties with a shortage of dentists and unfluoridated water are in the south-central U.S., in a cluster that stretches from Texas to the Florida Panhandle and up into Kansas, Missouri, and Oklahoma.

In the center of that cluster is the Ozark Mountain Regional Public Water Authority, which serves the Arkansas counties of Boone, Marion, Newton, and Searcy. It has refused to add fluoride ever since Arkansas enacted a statewide mandate in 2011. After weekly fines began in 2016, the water system unsuccessfully challenged the fluoride mandate in state court, then lost again on appeal.

Anderson, who has chaired the water system’s board since 2007, said he would like to challenge the fluoride mandate in court again and would argue the case himself if necessary. In a phone interview, Anderson said he believes that fluoride can hamper the brain and body to the point of making people “get fat and lazy.”

“So if you go out in the streets these days, walk down the streets, you’ll see lots of fat people wearing their pajamas out in public,” he said.

Nearby in the tiny, no-stoplight community of Leslie, Arkansas, which gets water from the Ozark system, the only dentist in town operates out of a one-man clinic tucked in the back of an antique store. Hand-painted lettering on the store window advertises a “pretty good dentist.”

James Flanagin, a third-generation dentist who opened this clinic three years ago, said he was drawn to Leslie by the quaint charms and friendly smiles of small-town life. But those same smiles also reveal the unmistakable consequences of refusing to fluoridate, he said.

“There is no doubt that there is more dental decay here than there would otherwise be,” he said. “You are going to have more decay if your water is not fluoridated. That’s just a fact.”

Fluoride Seen as a Great Public Health Achievement

Fluoride was first added to public water in an American city in 1945 and spread to half of the U.S. population by 1980, according to the CDC. Because of “the dramatic decline” in cavities that followed, in 1999 the CDC dubbed fluoridation as one of 10 great public health achievements of the 20th century.

Currently more than 70% of the U.S. population on public water systems get fluoridated water, with a recommended concentration of 0.7 milligrams per liter, or about three drops in a 55-gallon barrel, according to the CDC.

Fluoride is also present in modern toothpaste, mouthwash, dental varnish, and some food and drinks — like raisins, potatoes, oatmeal, coffee, and black tea. But several dental experts said these products do not reliably reach as many low-income families as drinking water, which has an additional benefit over toothpaste of strengthening children’s teeth from within as they grow.

Two recent polls have found that the largest share of Americans support fluoridation, but a sizable minority does not. Polls from Axios/Ipsos and AP-NORC found that 48% and 40% of respondents wanted to keep fluoride in public water supplies, while 29% and 26% supported its removal.

Chelsea Fosse, an expert on oral health policy at the American Academy of Pediatric Dentistry, said she worried that misguided fears of fluoride would cause many people to stop using fluoridated toothpaste and varnish just as Medicaid cuts made it harder to see a dentist.

The combination, she said, could be “devastating.”

“It will be visibly apparent what this does to the prevalence of tooth decay,” Fosse said. “If we get rid of water fluoridation, if we make Medicaid cuts, and if we don’t support providers in locating and serving the highest-need populations, I truly don’t know what we will do.”

Multiple peer-reviewed studies have shown what ending water fluoridation could look like. In the past few years, studies of cities in Alaska and Canada have shown that communities that stopped fluoridation saw significant increases in children’s cavities when compared with similar cities that did not. A 2024 study from Israel reported a “two-fold increase” in dental treatments for kids within five years after the country stopped fluoridating in 2014.

Despite the benefits of fluoridation, it has been fiercely opposed by some since its inception, said Catherine Hayes, a Harvard dental expert who advises the American Dental Association on fluoride and has studied its use for three decades.

Fluoridation was initially smeared as a communist plot against America, Hayes said, and then later fears arose of possible links to cancer, which were refuted through extensive scientific research. In the ’80s, hysteria fueled fears of fluoride causing AIDS, which was “ludicrous,” Hayes said.

More recently, the anti-fluoride movement seized on international research that suggests high levels of fluoride can hinder children’s brain development and has been boosted by high-profile legal and political victories.

Last August, a hotly debated report from the National Institutes of Health’s National Toxicology Program found “with moderate confidence” that exposure to levels of fluoride that are higher than what is present in American drinking water is associated with lower IQ in children. The report was based on an analysis of 74 studies conducted in other countries, most of which were considered “low quality” and involved exposure of at least 1.5 milligrams of fluoride per liter of water — or more than twice the U.S. recommendation — according to the program.

The following month, in a long-simmering lawsuit filed by fluoride opponents, a federal judge in California said the possible link between fluoride and lowered IQ was too risky to ignore, then ordered the federal Environmental Protection Agency to take nonspecified steps to lower that risk. The EPA started to appeal this ruling in the final days of the Biden administration, but the Trump administration could reverse course.

The EPA and Department of Justice declined to comment. The White House and Department of Health and Human Services did not respond to questions about fluoride.

Despite the National Toxicology Program’s report, Hayes said, no association has been shown to date between lowered IQ and the amount of fluoride actually present in most Americans’ water. The court ruling may prompt additional research conducted in the U.S., Hayes said, which she hoped would finally put the campaign against fluoride to rest.

“It’s one of the great mysteries of my career, what sustains it,” Hayes said. “What concerns me is that there’s some belief amongst some members of the public — and some of our policymakers — that there is some truth to this.”

Not all experts were so dismissive of the toxicology program’s report. Bruce Lanphear, a children’s health researcher at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia, published an editorial in January that said the findings should prompt health organizations “to reassess the risks and benefits of fluoride, particularly for pregnant women and infants.”

“The people who are proposing fluoridation need to now prove it’s safe,” Lanphear told NPR in January. “What the study does, or should do, is shift the burden of proof.”

Cities and States Rethink Fluoride

At least 14 states so far this year have considered or are considering bills that would lift fluoride mandates or prohibit fluoride in drinking water altogether. In February, Utah lawmakers passed the nation’s first ban, which Republican Gov. Spencer Cox told ABC4 Utah he intends to sign. And both Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo and Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller have called for their respective states to end fluoridation.

“I don’t want Big Brother telling me what to do,” Miller told The Dallas Morning News in February. “Government has forced this on us for too long.”

Additionally, dozens of cities and counties have decided to stop fluoridation in the past six months — including at least 16 communities in Florida with a combined population of more than 1.6 million — according to news reports and the Fluoride Action Network, an anti-fluoride group.

Stuart Cooper, executive director of that group, said the movement’s unprecedented momentum would be further supercharged if Kennedy and the Trump administration follow through on a recommendation against fluoride.

Cooper predicted that most U.S. communities will have stopped fluoridating within years.

“I think what you are seeing in Florida, where every community is falling like dominoes, is going to now happen in the United States,” he said. “I think we’re seeing the absolute end of it.”

If Cooper’s prediction is right, Hayes said, widespread decay would be visible within years. Kids’ teeth will rot in their mouths, she said, even though “we know how to completely prevent it.”

“It’s unnecessary pain and suffering,” Hayes said. “If you go into any children’s hospital across this country, you’ll see a waiting list of kids to get into the operating room to get their teeth fixed because they have severe decay because they haven’t had access to either fluoridated water or other types of fluoride. Unfortunately, that’s just going to get worse.”

Methodology: How We Counted This KFF Health News article identifies communities with an elevated risk of tooth decay by combining data on areas with dentist shortages and unfluoridated drinking water. Our analysis merged Harvard University research on dentist-shortage areas with large datasets on public water systems published by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.The Harvard research determined that nearly 25 million Americans live in dentist-shortage areas that span much of rural America. The CDC data details the populations served and fluoridation status of more than 38,000 public water systems in 37 states. We classified counties as having elevated risk of tooth decay if they met three criteria:More than half of the residents live in a dentist-shortage area identified by Harvard.The number of people receiving unfluoridated water from water systems based in that county amounts to more than half of the county’s population.The number of people receiving unfluoridated water from water systems based in that county amounts to at least half of the total population of all water systems based in that county, even if those systems reached beyond the county borders, which many do.

Our analysis identified approximately 230 counties that meet these criteria, meaning they have both a dire shortage of dentists and largely unfluoridated drinking water.

But this total is certainly an undercount. Thirteen states do not report water system data to the CDC, and the agency data does not include private wells, most of which are unfluoridated.

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        Unfortunately, those toothless kids, did. They will vote just like their ignorant parents.

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          just because some rich elites hijack a government and use two “opposing” parties to simulate choice and then the same oligarchs make sure the education system is in the crapper along with low pays and no healthcare and get those same citizens to live in areas that are polluted due to industry just to churn out voters that will continue to play the game does not make it the citizens’ or their offsprings’ fault

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            So what you’re saying is that the voters who voted trump in aren’t to blame?

            Yeaaaa not buying that shit.

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              I am. America has never been a democracy. It was always a thinly-veiled oligarchy, six corporations in a trench coat pretending to be a government.

              Blaming the voters doesn’t make any sense because American voters are the most heavily-propagandized population on the planet. Most of them still think Democrats are actually opposed to Republicans even though they share campaign donors.

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          Nah, this is wrong, lots of kids born in rural areas full of redneck trash are able to see through their bullshit. The problem is that when they grow up their choices are either looking over their shoulders their whole lives while being blackballed from every decent paying job in the area, or moving away to the nearest city where Democratic politicians are already taking 90% of the votes. Either way, rural red areas stay red, and they will until Democratic politicians find the spine and justification for sending national guard troops in and going full Reconstruction on these little hillbilly fiefdoms.

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            You clearly have never lived in a rural area. I do, the kids act just like their parents. I literally see 17 year olds driving big ass trucks here in the deep south with trump flags still. The majority do not jump ship to vote dem.

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      obvious that voting Democrat would have yielded same results except it would have been Harris being butt buddies with the rest of the Republicans at the whim of the oligarchs that really run this country

      election meddling done by both parties through the lowering of the education standards in the country, keeping everyone poor because of low minimum wage laws, making sure everyone is kept sick from lack of proper healthcare, etcetera ensures the country kept where it is at now by ensuring citizens never make it to their full potential and are always voting poorly thus rigging the board so the oligarchs always win

      by design and voting will not change it

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        obvious that voting Democrat would have yielded same results

        For real dude? She would be taking flouride out of the water? Jesus Christ I can’t with some people on this site.

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              Precisely. She’d immediately wash her hands of the issue and give red states carte blanche to fuck themselves up however they wanted. A carefully triangulated middle ground where she gives up the pretense of even addressing a particular public health issue in exchange for gaining exactly nothing.

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                Right.

                Ok. I’ll be here when you’re ready to come back to reality. There is no argument here if you can’t accept and agree on the basic facts of the situation.

                As someone who has lived through more than a few presidential administrations, I can tell you for a fact that all we would have gotten is more of the status quo.

                Which, right now, I yearn for. I want politics to be boring again.

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                  There is no argument here if you can’t accept and agree on the basic facts of the situation.

                  The “basic facts of the situation” are that the Democrats would never have been willing to risk political capital over niche red state issues and would rather give up than spend the effort needed to protect our teeth.

                  As someone who has lived through more than a few presidential administrations myself, I can tell you for a fact that this is the how the status quo would have been preserved.

                  Politics should never be boring, because politics are always a matter of life and death. These issues are important and the fact that Democrats care more about working with Republicans than getting into fistfights with them on the congressional floor is dangerously boring.

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      I wish it was that simple my friend. I’m a medical doctor but unfortunately English is the only language in fluent in. Although many Europeans speak English, and I’m willing to learn other languages, realistically there is no way I will ever be proficient enough to practice medicine in a second language. So my options are pretty limited in where I could go and how many jobs there really are available to me.

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        It is easy. The EU has the EU-BLUE CARD for specialists like medical specialists

        And it doesnt hurt learning a language ^^

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        Ireland and the UK are solid options though.

        Also, it’s most definitely not impossible to practice medicine in a language you’re not a native speaker of. For example, Syrians make up more than 1% of all doctors in Germany, the vast majority of which arrived in 2015-2016.

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        This might come as a shock to you, but English actually originates from Europe.

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          I don’t think it will considering this exact quote from his own post “Although many Europeans speak English”

          Reading comprehension on the other hand is something we can call get better at

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    Back to 1900. People will be getting dentures at 40. Without teeth you can’t eat or talk properly, your jaw starts to degenerate. There may be a connection between severe tooth decay and heart disease as mouth bacteria enter the blood stream.

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      There may be a connection between severe tooth decay and heart disease as mouth bacteria enter the blood stream.

      I’m pretty sure that’s a well established connection. Wash your teeth kids, your heart will love it.

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    I grew up in a rural area where most of us had well water. Our school would however have a program where the kids would get fluoride treatments. It basically was just a mouthwash.

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      This is so much more effective, less wasteful, and safer than putting it in tap water that every person will be forced to drink liters of every day.

      It’s so obvious and the people pushing for fluoridated water seem so stupid to me because they have literally nothing to support their argument except the status quo. It’s one of the worst examples of hivemind I’ve ever seen.

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        no, well, it is known and quite well medically understood that a higher fluorine intake will indeed make the teeth harder, as fluorine becomes a mineral in the teeth. there’s no or extremely little doubt about that.

        however, what one could argue is that it’s not entirely clear whether fluoride could cause unwanted side-effects; or whether adding it to all the water is really necessary (or wasteful).

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          Much better ways to apply it. Toothpaste, mouthwash, etc. There is evidence that links fluoride to unwanted side effects that would literally cripple society if they had effects because we are literally exposing every child to it.

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      Imagine actually going to the store to buy tooth care products and actually using them. HOW FUCKING HORRIBLE.

      No instead we need to poison water with fluoride instead.

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        Fluoride occurs naturally in many plants and if you drink tea you are drinking a similar amount of fluoride to what they add to water. It won’t do as much for your teeth if it’s sweet tea, and some other aspects of tea can stain teeth. But humans have been drinking fluoride in beverages for thousands of years, it’s not some new poision we invented and started adding to the water without being sure it was safe.

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          It’s extremely different to say that you can get similar exposure by drinking certain drinks rather than getting that same exposure through tap water. You realize that right? Like you’re comparing what will be a once a day dosage versus how someone stays hydrated. They will drink liters of tap water a day. They will not drink liters of tea.

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    I’m sure some of you have concerns, but there is help. No need to worry; smile with confidence using dentures that stay in place using polygrip. Act now and use this code for a discount…

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        I brushed them but I still got cavities and one tooth moved up into my jaw requiring surgery to remove.

        But perhaps I should have just brushed harder…

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    Imagine toothpaste with fluoride that’s hard to avoid buying if you buy toothpaste in the store ever. Are people not getting toothpaste anymore?

    In the developed world, US is an outlier. Also:

    Recent studies suggest that water fluoridation, particularly in industrialized countries, may be unnecessary because topical fluorides (such as in toothpaste) are widely used and cavity rates have become low.[3] For this reason, some scientists consider fluoridation to be unethical due to the lack of informed consent.[12]

    Maybe fluoridated toothpaste is enough?

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      The data says it’s not enough. That’s the point. We’re talking about averages here, and children who have no choice, right?

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        The data

        I see the article link some observational cohort studies, which rank somewhere in the middle of the hierarchy of evidence. Are there any systematic reviews?

        As mentioned before, water fluoridation is uncommon in other developed countries. Shouldn’t there be tooth decay problems there, too?

        A public health policy should meet the highest standards of evidence such as a systematic review.

        Systematic review does show toothpaste fluoridated at sufficient concentrations suffices when administered. Are people not brushing teeth enough, and wouldn’t that be a bigger issue for tooth decay? Is the fluoride in their toothpaste too low?

        A systematic review could reconcile the tooth decay observed in those cohort studies with that of the rest of the developed world lacking fluoridated water (whether they need it there or why they don’t). That would support a public policy.

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    There’s a Sonicare toothbrush for $20, combine it with off brand head replacements. And a waterpik is good for gums.

    I know it’s not an anti-consumer PSA, but if you need tools to take care of yourself, best to know about them.

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      I think there’s a distinction between using a product to benefit your health directly and consumerism. This isn’t something most people could make on their own adequately and isn’t too expensive compared to not brushing.

      I’d also highly advise to use a fluoridated toothpaste and mouth rinse. I typically rinse my mouth after lunch if I don’t brush to remove any food or smell. I had bad teeth as a kid (genetics) and fluoride has literally saved my adult teeth. That and constant vigilance. lol

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        Related to that, it boggles the mind that Americans need a PRESCRIPTION for 2.1% i can just go buy that off the shelf up here.

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      Since you seem so concerned about this, how did you come to the conclusion that fluoride treatments are “poisoning” people?

      You sound like Alex Jones, and if you’re a reasonable person that should give you real pause about the shit you’re saying.

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        https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/whatwestudy/assessments/noncancer/completed/fluoride

        The NTP monograph concluded, with moderate confidence, that higher levels of fluoride exposure, such as drinking water containing more than 1.5 milligrams of fluoride per liter, are associated with lower IQ in children. The NTP review was designed to evaluate total fluoride exposure from all sources and was not designed to evaluate the health effects of fluoridated drinking water alone. It is important to note that there were insufficient data to determine if the low fluoride level of 0.7 mg/L currently recommended for U.S. community water supplies has a negative effect on children’s IQ.

        Merely twice the recommended fluoridation level in the US was found definitively to lower IQ in children. That’s far too close and the benefits are not there. Most countries DO NOT fluoridate their water. The US is one of a few developed countries that do. Those countries that don’t have seen similar reductions in tooth decay as the US as dental hygiene has become more culturally and publicly supported. I don’t know if you’re paying attention to the news but there is a fuck ton of evidence that something is deeply wrong with the American populace.

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          Did you read the article you posted?

          In conclusion, based on the totality of currently available scientific evidence, the present review does not support the presumption that fluoride should be assessed as a human developmental neurotoxicant at the current exposure levels in Europe.

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          Be honest, did you read it?

          Because it states that all of the experiments were done “in vitro” (in glass) rather than “in vivo” (in living humans) And the tissue used to simulate the experiments came from a wide range of non human sources. I’m not saying that the study or your beliefs are wrong but the only way to prove that what you are saying is true is a double blind study of living humans. You must also always ask the question of “who is funding this” And this study claims to have been funded by German Research Foundation (Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft) On the website of the GRF it states that they don’t fund International research.

          From the website

          “In contrast to some foreign funding organisations, the DFG does not provide special funding for international cooperation projects. This means that proposals for funding of international project collaborations compete with all other proposals under the respective DFG procedure.”

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          It’s called reading. You should try it some time.

          Posts an article that clearly contradicts his point and calls out other people for not reading. Imagine being that dumb :>

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          As others have pointed out, you didn’t even read your own source.

          So to everyone else who stumbles upon these ramblings, they are absolutely full of shit and are here to spread misinformation because all the frogs are gay now and they have no one to bang.

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      Because a lot of those people are children.

      Fluoridating water is cheap. If someone is uneducated enough to not know or care about how their dental health affects their overall health, and the same for their child, it matters significantly less because they get a baseline level of care from the public water system. It means they use less medicare/medicaid funds in the years and decades to follow.

      The single study cited in a lot of anti-fluoride laws/debates is talking about possible single digit IQ differences from possible overdoses on the scale of countries. That’s smaller than the effect of the same person taking the same test on different days. It’s a textbook example of finding noise in the data, pointing to it, and saying this proves exactly what I want it to. And it’s being used to remove one of the best documented, lowest cost, most effective large scale public health measures of the 20th century. Because it will not impact people with parents who can afford dental care and/or have the education to value it.

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        One key issue is to provide flouride to pregnant mothers, so the babies can actually start building up the “proto-teeth” in their gums properly.

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          Fluoridation is most effective at ages where it’s hard for kids to physically hold a toothbrush, much less develop good or effective habits. Especially if they’re in a family that is struggling to regularly provide food, much less worry about long term healthcare. Berating children for not knowing things or having self control is a ridiculous position to take.

          The entire point of public fluoridation is that it requires no effort or cost by the people it is most effective for. It’s why some places take excessive natural fluoride out of the water and some places put more in because there isn’t any. It’s how we discovered fluoride was effective in the first place.

          Aspirin is poison, Vitamin C is poison, water is poison. “Poison is in the dosage” isn’t a glib statement, it’s how biology works. Putting an amount of fluoride in the water that is still non-toxic if you severely over-hydrate yourself or regularly swallow a tube toothpaste, is not toxic. And it still has massive lifelong positive health benefits that reduce lifetime medical needs.

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      the reason why they have fluorine in the drinking water in the US (but not in europe) is because people in the US consume drastically more sugar, so their teeth need extra protection.