All flights in the United States are grounded until further notice “due to extraordinary circumstances and for reasons of safety,” the Federal Aviation Administration said in a statement.
The FAA issued the ground stop “following a communication issue impacting all Air Route Traffic Control Centers,” Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy said in a social media post. “FAA technicians are investigating the issue.”
Air Route Traffic Control Centers are regional facilities that handle flights going across the country.
“Traffic should remain ground stopped until further notice,” the FAA said in an advisory. “International flights will be managed on a case by case basis.”
From yesterday:
Wow, our government will do literally anything to avoid having to pay decent wages and benefits to air traffic controllers.
Based on the description in the article, it doesn’t sound like LLMs. It sounds like they are using the older meaning of AI to refer to just computer programs in general.
FAA denies it’s related to the new system. they say it’s a communication equipment outage.
so 🤷
Right, the timings is PURELY coincidental
Are you telling me the administration might be lying?
September and claims it has already rerouted 180 flights for average savings of 10 minutes and 80 gallons of fuel, Ars wrote (that’s just shy of $345 per flight, at jet fuel rates of $4.31/gallon as of Thursday).
A tool that cost a little under a BILLION dollars…so far…saved $62,000? That’s the stupidest waste of taxpayer money in the last 5 minutes with this administration. And of course it saved airlines the money, while taxpayers got stuck with the $800 million dollar bill for the WalMart brand airplane route planner.
It’s not going to save anyone any money on flights because companies just pocket the difference, but does anyone know how the jet gas/ diesel/ consumer auto gas markets are connected? Is there a chance the reduced jet fuel demand reduces prices at the pump? That’s probably the bigger picture goal here even if it doesn’t actually work that way, because our government is run by dumbasses who wouldn’t even think to ask if they’re connected.
This looks like one of those large upfront costs things that saves money over the long run because new critical infrastructure systems always cost a lot upfront and need a slow rollout to prevent things like, say, grounding every single flight in the country, but long term pay for themselves. On paper I’m usually in favor of short term spend for long term savings but unfortunately this is a kleptocracy and this is an indirect handout to the airlines.
Hey Claude, is runway 5 free?
“Oops, sorry. You’re absolutely right to question that. Runway 5 did have a plane already on it with 254 passengers on board. Would you like me to assist with notifying their next of kin?”
I wanted to make a joke like “no but runway 185 is” since the number of a runway is its degrees from magnetic north and each runway gets two numbers, 180 degrees apart, depending on the direction you’re landing from. But the numbers are rounded to 10 meaning runway 5 isnt a real runway number so the joke doesnt really work (it would be runways 01 and 19 for 10 degrees and 190 degrees)
There’s a lot that goes into getting this joke, and even though you explained it. I still don’t get it.
Didn’t you just explain how runway 5 (or 05) is 50 degrees and the joke just should have been runway 23 for 230 degrees?
WHAT
OMG, people are going to die because of this.
No fucking way 😆 staying home for the holidays then
Flight crews over the US flying on instruments
Surely you cant be serious
I am serious. And stop calling me Shirley.
Flights are resuming
Presumably at gunpoint.
What’s happening now • Nationwide ground stop: All flight departures in the United States have been halted after a major telecommunications outage posed safety concerns, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. The issue stems from a problem with network routers that cascaded nationwide, an airline source told CNN.
• Travel nightmare: Airlines and passengers are figuring out their next steps as thousands of flights are delayed or canceled. The number of impacted trips has surged as the hours-long ground stop continues.
• No timetable for resolution: Homeland Security Secretary Markwayne Mullin warned that there’s no known time frame for resolving the issue and that he expects an extended process.
• No known threat: Mullin said the ground stop did not stem from a threat to the US and was not linked to this week’s disruptive Microsoft outage. Preliminary reports indicate this was not a cyberattack, law enforcement sources told CNN. President Donald Trump has been briefed.
If it isn’t a foreign attack, a cyber attack, or a 3rd party infrastructure failure, the only option left is it’s the federal government’s fault right?
The issue stems from a problem with network routers that cascaded nationwide
Someone pushed claude’s
if reply.sacramento == 0
try ping LAX
repeat 1000if reply.LAX == 0
try ping ATL
repeat 2000etc.
It’s gonna be they implemented some vibe coded bs software and found out it almost killed people
I hope every flight attendant and pilot remembers to thank the passengers for flying Trump air
Pushing AI slop code to production, what could go wrong?
It says something when I saw that headline and my thought was equally some natural disaster or attack struck. Either that or this administration simply fucked up again.
Found out about it when our flight landed and the pilot made an announcement. No other info than there was a ground order, immediate thought was 9/11
My immediate thought was Airplane! (1980) starring Robert Hays and Julie Hagerty and featuring Leslie Nielsen.
WTF happened? Did the MAGA fucknuts change the language to Russian?
When asked if AI had anything to do with the outage DHS secretary Mark Wayne Mullin replied “We call it SI around here remember?”
I wish I was kidding.
That’s sounds like straight up fiction
“Do not speak evil of the Supreme Intelligence, for It is truth and right! Do not doubt of it, for mere humans cannot comprehend Its plan!”
I hope it’s not the hybrid warfare that Europe is battling…
Just Grok trying to do a 9/11. Nbd.
It’s gonna cost every nation that has racked up technical debt over the years. Everyone is so focused on breaking systems and spying instead of helping society to do things safely and securely.
How am I supposed to play Sky Cards right now?
- AI / Incompetence?
- A diversion?
- A test of something worse?
- Disruption of group or person hidden in the chaos?
Everything is on the table with this crooked admin…
all of the above? or at least the first three. a fake outage to cause panic. muskrat or ratman will swoop in with an ‘ai’ powered ‘‘fix’’ that’ll only cost
2 billion20 billion200 billion and it still won’t work right.
So it’s indeed the result of implementing an AI system that completely overwhelmed the traffic control systems.
How is there no oversight or proper testing? And why roll this out on a Friday?
Everything reaks of incompetence. This regime is so lucky nothing bad happened and lives were lost.
Now this asshat in charge of the department of transportation, wants 50 billion dollars and blames the Biden administration.
Fuck all.
Dammit Biden!
How did Flavor Flave seem to know before everybody else?
He got that big clock around his neck, reminded him it was time for the outage.
He requested it, and FAA had no choice but to shut things down
In addition to his other duties, Flavor Flav is also official timekeeper for the FAA. He keeps all the clocks synced in the nation’s air traffic control towers. He just had a sick day today.
What else do you think the clock was for?
At work we use rubidium-87 clocks synced against GPS for highly accurate time keeping. GPS satellites sync their time against Flav.
The clock on his chest proves he don’t fess.
He’s clocker rockin, rockin with the best.
He is the time master and thus in charge of scheduling, is he not? That’s why he has that giant clock around his neck.
Yes. MC Hammer only got his catchphrase via Flav’s blessing
He saw the FAA announce the rollout of a new system to replace the old reliable one that was created by people who knew wtf they were doing.
The FAA tweet that said “goodbye to paper” basically gave everyone who ever worked in government IT a massive heads-up
Always does shit right after markets close on Fridays. Such a corrupt ghoul.
I looked it up. The SMART AI used is from a private company. I admit I wanted to see their stocks tank on Monday… but alas.
Check his Kalshi bets.
Because he’s in the Pacific Time Zone?
The post was 20:51 UTC. According to Wikipedia and the FAA database itself, the advisory wasn’t issued until 20:54 UTC.
So I should ask him to give me some lottery numbers? 😊
What specific time zone?
Or his device was… I assume you’re talking about his post being time stamped three hours before it happened.
