• bcgm3@lemmy.worldEnglish
    104·
    2 months ago

    Been a lot of “demon” talk from him lately. Tucker’s literally turning into Alex Jones before our very eyes.

    • ShaggyBlarney@lemmy.caEnglish
      28·
      2 months ago

      Everybody knows Marie Curie was a woman and woman’s contributions to science just don’t exist or even register. Women scientists are literally the devil. /s

      • Deconceptualist@lemm.eeEnglish
        16·
        2 months ago

        Marie Curie didn’t discover fission; that was Lise Meitner and her nephew Otto Frisch and colleague Otto Hahn. But yeah, same problem. Meitner was left out of the publications and overlooked for a Nobel Prize.

  • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
    53·
    2 months ago

    How most dumb people reason.

    I have no personal experience of this thing, so it must mean it’s not real.

    If i dont know, nobody knows.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      7·
      2 months ago

      This is just something that I will never be able to comprehend… How can someone be so completely incurious?

        • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
          2·
          2 months ago

          God money’s not looking for the cure 
          God money’s not concerned about the sick among the pure

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          2·
          2 months ago

          Yeah, in this case, sure. But I guess I was talking about more in general. These people are out there. I would wager that there are millions of them in the US. At least.

          • limelight79@lemm.ee
            1·
            2 months ago

            Yeah. Some of them are dumb. But all of them have been fed decades of bullshit “news” and are indoctrinated.

            • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              1·
              2 months ago

              For sure… But it seems like a whole different level of indoctrination than just like “being a Christian” or whatever.

              Like, you have to be OK with ignoring objective reality. It’s just something I have trouble grasping.

        • SwingingTheLamp@midwest.socialEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          Yeah, the real question about him: Does he accept his payoff in rubles, or is he the kind of two-faced mercenary who demands dollars? (I know my guess.)

    • Sylvartas@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 months ago

      Academics : exists

      This fucking guy : “no one in the entire world knows when nuclear power was first theorized, and then confirmed by several experiments”

    • Saleh@feddit.org
      18·
      2 months ago

      How most dumb people reason.

      I have no personal experience of this thing, so it must mean it’s not real.

      If i dont know, nobody knows.

      you are now banned from Atheist Memes.

      • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
        51·
        2 months ago

        People aren’t atheist because they have no personal experience proving the existence of a god.

        Atheism isn’t a belief system.

        The lack of evidence for a god is why atheists exist.

        Personal experience and evidence are two different things.

        • Saleh@feddit.org
          21·
          2 months ago

          Atheism is a belief system. It is the belief that there is no deity.

          The scientific approach is agnosticism. In the absence of evidence, or what one considers evidence, the scientific answer is “i don’t know”.

          Personal experience and evidence are two different things.

          And a lot of what we consider to be scientifically proven, are theories, which are subject to constant change. The best example probably being atomic models and how rapidly they developed in the early 20th century. However that Bohrs atom model of circular movement of electrons around the atoms core was succeeded by more detailed models and the circles being disproved, doesn’t mean Bohr was any less of a scientist or evidence based researcher.

          Meanwhile except for very few physics experts we all just accept that orbitals are the best approximation we have right now, because we read it in some book.

          • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
            31·
            2 months ago

            Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity. It’s not a belief that one doesn’t exist.

            There’s a distinction there. You can look that up. You will find you are mistaken.

            P.s.i find your willingness to trivalise scientific research and discovery as “some book” intollerable.

            In the context of my original point, the difference between a scientific theory and some political monstrosity not believing something because they have no personal experience of the subject is incredibly large.

            Don’t try to legitimise that clown.

            • Saleh@feddit.org
              2·
              2 months ago

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

              Atheism, in the broadest sense, is an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

              Agnosticism is the view or belief that the existence of God, the divine, or the supernatural is either unknowable in principle or unknown in fact. It can also mean an apathy towards such religious belief and refer to personal limitations rather than a worldview. Another definition is the view that “human reason is incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify either the belief that God exists or the belief that God does not exist.”

              Aside from that, whether you accept and believe scientific discoveries remains a subjective choice. In social sciences like history or economics it often happens that two contradictory views are equally legitimate. And again the look in the past is valuable. Many scientists were ridiculed, sometimes even persecuted for their ideas to be outside the consensus of their time.

              Assuming that what you consider the accepted truth because it is the accepted opinion of our day and age could proof equally fallible like the ancient Greeks and Romans ridiculing the now accepted germ theory, for which we have ample evidence thanks to the development of microscopes.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease#Greece_and_Rome

              So your original ridicule is perfectly viable. It just not only applies to the statements of Tucker Carlson, who i probably despise equally as you do.

              • Cataphract@lemmy.ml
                2·
                2 months ago

                I have loved ones that I very much care for that I have to do these mental dances with. Certain groups or cultures of people may have a bias towards only looking at scientific evidence that promotes their hypothesis, well established institutions can sometimes be “stuck in a rut” but I would include people like graham hancock in that group. Science is a beautiful thing though, new data and experiments doesn’t care what your belief structure is. Your germ theory is a beautiful example where thought was put into a hypothesis and was slowly formed over time with new evidence. Religious and spiritual aspects do not require this with belief. What was the last study done by a religious scholar that a deity exists? What was the last religious text that was changed due to discoveries or experiments that were done?

                It’s important to realize that scientific study is a rigorous system and not everyone follows it to the best of their ability. Slamming a label on like “whether you accept and believe scientific discoveries remains a subjective choice” is not a valid statement.

                The basic difference between objective and subjective information is that objective information is based on facts, while subjective information, or a subjective perspective, is based on opinion, emotion, or feelings.

                The very fact that you’re using subjective choice to look at scientific data means you’re not actually following the scientific method (explains how something goes from hypothesis-theory-law). It’s ok to have a hypothesis that’s different from mainstream, it’s not ok to declare being subjugated because you aren’t following the method to show your data and claiming it must be a law.

                If you’re going to dance around the science/spiritual circles you need to have proper respect for both parties when communicating directly (if you want everyone to understand what you’re talking about). One example is “Energy”, means two very different things when talking to an electrical engineer or a new age “star child”. The distinction needs to be made for sound scientific communication that doesn’t impede someones belief.

                I highly suggest checking out “The Hidden Story That Defines Our Modern Era” from Like Stories of Old. This is a prime example of how you can bind modern communication and stepping into the religious/belief structures of our history while maintaining respect for everyone.

              • Simulation6@sopuli.xyz
                1·
                2 months ago

                Richard Dawkins argued that agnostic is a meaningless term. He said that anyone who is given irrefutable proof of the existence of something and still refuses to believe is a fool and that non-theist is the better term for people that don’t buy into the whole god thing.

  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
    45·
    2 months ago

    Of course not. That would require him acknowledging women in science. That would be Marie Curie.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        51·
        2 months ago

        Well you have the guy who found uranium, the guy who ran electricity through a vacuum, the guy who found pitchblende, and then Marie Curie who did the experiments with refined pitchblende to create X-ray machines.

        If you want to talk specifically about nuclear energy and weapons then you’re probably looking for Rutherford. But he wouldn’t even be conducting those experiments without Curie, Röntgen, and Becquerel.

  • LiveLM@lemmy.zipEnglish
    40·
    2 months ago

    The real question is: and???
    So we’re harvesting demonic forces to power our shit?
    That’s fuckin’ metal duuuuude. If you’re trying to make nuclear sound bad you failed.

    • Etterra@lemmy.world
      17·
      2 months ago

      He’s an psychopathic idiot who laughs like a maniac on speed. I’m pretty sure his idea of research is “I spent 15 minutes not understanding the wiki.”

    • GiddyGap@lemm.ee
      11·
      2 months ago

      He’s talking to evangelicals who react when you use the word “demonic” about anything. They hold great political sway, and they have proven that they will go against their own moral interests to nurture their political interests.

      Case in point, watch them get in line to vote for Trump today, despite him being the antithesis of evangelical behavior and values.

  • RunawayFixer@lemmy.world
    39·
    2 months ago

    I’ve got the impression that Tucker Carlson is going after Alex Jones his audience. Tucker Carlson peddling crazy conspiracy theories right when the chickens are coming home to roost for Alex Jones, imo that’s no coincidence. Tucker never was stupid, he just has no morals, so he never had a problem with publicly stating stuff that he personally didn’t believe in. Grifters gonna grift.

    • Sporkbomber@lemm.eeEnglish
      8·
      2 months ago

      That’s my initial thought as well. The weird thing though is he’s already rich, he could bugger off into obscurity and live a life of luxury, but it seems like he just craves attention.

  • YeetPics@mander.xyz
    34·
    2 months ago

    Wasn’t there a big budget biopic on Oppenheimer that released last year?

    I can’t recall the name of it… But it was for sure centered on Oppenheimer while he helped develop nuclear fission weapons.

    If anyone can remember the name of that biopic that focused on Oppenheimer, please let me know, it’s killing me.

    • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nzEnglish
      7·
      2 months ago

      There was a really big popular movie last year, I think it was called “The Barbie Movie”

    • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 months ago

      The splitting of the atom was only referenced in a single line in that movie and it wasn’t Oppenheimer who did it. Then Fermi’s first nuclear reactor was only briefly mentioned in one scene. Oppenheimer developed the nuclear bomb specifically.

      • YeetPics@mander.xyz
        62·
        2 months ago

        So you clearly missed the point of the exercise, thank you for debating all the minutia of my joke to me.

        Have a great day!

        • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
          34·
          2 months ago

          The punchline of your joke is that the answer is Oppenheimer, but it isn’t. Your joke just doesn’t make sense lol

        • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          2 months ago

          Oh well sure lol.

          But if you want to isolate “The moment nuclear technology became known to man”, the splitting of the atom or the reactor that was built before the atom bomb are probably what you’re going to go with.

  • underwire212@lemm.ee
    30·
    2 months ago

    Ah yes, the ol’ “if I don’t know something, then it MUST be X” argument.

    Substitute X for whatever ya like! Demons, ghouls, demon ghouls…the possibilities are endless!

    • RangerJosie@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      2 months ago

      Dude my brother-in-law.

      Fuckin’ aliens built everything! Baghdad Batteries? Aliens. Pool of mercury in a pyramid? Alien Power Cell that we don’t understand yet.

  • Jack Riddle@sh.itjust.works
    26·
    2 months ago

    Looking at the content of the message and the name of the source, I thought this had to be satire. But the site seems to be an actual news site, and other news sites corroborate the story. Which brings me to the question I wanted to ask:

    What the fuck‽