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I did that once. Felt good. Still feels yucky though, with how deep this is ingrained into my brain.
If anything, I’m able to see how much of self-imposed harmful stuff I’ve been trained to consider not only normal, but a necessity. I believe there was no malice in the people that pushed these things/beliefs onto me, but being conscious of them is a good first step to differentiate with what to keep and what to let go. Even if I can’t fix myself, I can at least try not to push these onto others, should the occasion rise.
Gene Kelly and Frank Sinatra, On the Town, 1949
For anyone wondering - comic strips don’t need to be witty or poignant to send a message, they can just state the message directly in the panel
Political cartoons would be so much better if they did that instead of looking visually cluttered with all the forced metaphors being drawn into the scene. I swear, some of those things are like puzzles. You miss one or two small pieces of context and suddenly the whole cartoon makes 0 sense.
I hear you, but I do like it when the artists at least makes some effort at satire. The above comic reads more like a motivational poster than something making a point.
I keep looking at the last panel expecting the shoe to drop, but am left deeply unsatisfied, even though it’s a message I agree with
I am pretty sure the point is that it’s okay to show emotions as a man.
I know, I guess I was just expecting something a bit more. Right now I feel preached to about something I already agree with.
I don’t feel I learned anything, and I wonder if the desired audience will actually see this
The JFK conspiracy community apparently was fixating on this guy visible in the background of some of the film. On a bright sunny day in Houston Texas, he’s wearing a formal suit and carrying an umbrella.
Apparently he was doing so as a protest against JFK because something something a character with an umbrella was a common symbol in political cartoons at the time?
Love this.
And I got here before the pizzacake hateclub? Will wonders never cease.
Normally, I’m the first to take the piss out of her, but this is an extremely reasonable thing for her to say.
I wonder if OP has taken the comic out of context?
Nah I would say a solid at least 50% of her comics are pretty decent, people just hate on her no matter what because of the others
50% of the ones posted here definitely aren’t decent, but then again, most of the comics posted here aren’t very good.
It was an “apology” comic of sorts, after the previous one, about how men have it easy, …drew widespread criticism that she took very, very badly.
men have it easy
Neither has it easy. Life sucks for most people.
So basically made under duress? Yeah, that makes sense.
Lord knows she wouldn’t show empathy towards men voluntarily.
Laziest apology comic ever. Didn’t even think of anything witty or mildly funny.
My post was downvoted after I had just posted it.
This god awful post covers it:
https://rdrama.net/post/312767/marseywomanmoment2-pizzacake-posts-are-now-banned
If someone has a better thread, please share.
Basically she made a misdarist flavored comic and sent mods to ban critics across subs, and threatened incredulous DMCA against parody sub bhj.
I appreciate the sentiment in this comic, but my resentment for her response still stands: she’s THE comic Karen.
I didn’t see it on that post, but which one is the specific misandrist comic, is it in there somewhere? Just looking through her stuff and seeing some anti-maga and anti-veryspecifictypeofman stuff but nothing that pops out at me as general misandry.
The KYM page also just mentioned the BHJ stuff but nothing specific about whatever controversial thing she posted.
It was some dumb “if men were treated like women” comic.
The real controversey started with the bans. The top comment was a male survivor, who got banned. Pizzacake was waging wars in the comments, and mods where banning harmless stuff.
She’s been able to paint over it by calling her haters incels and silencing her critics with legal action, but it’s pretty dishonest if you just read her responses and messages.
Due to disagreements with Pizzacake Comics she no longer wants her works to be posted to this subreddit with threat of legal action.
Rules regarding harrassment are still in effect, do not harrass Pizzacake regarding this decision. Meta posts and BHJ regarding this will be removed for related reasons. Users found violating this may face bans depending on severity of offenses.
I guess the question is: why does she feel the need to threaten people with legal actions over responses to comics?
https://old.reddit.com/r/bonehurtingjuice/comments/1ggn4a6/pizzacake_posts_are_now_banned/
Thanks, I found it. What I understood from going through some of her downvoted content and from the links you shared was that people were posting her (paid) patron content and her (presumably also paid) nudes. I’ve admittedly got very little history on all of this so maybe I’m missing something but it seems understandable that artists wouldn’t want their paid content re-posted, and I’ve seen other artists be upset about the same. I think people should respect that regardless of whether they think the artist is good or not.
Huge backpedalling moment to cover her ass. No apology for it of course.
Wrong as he was in his actions/behavior, the statement does draw a lot of water around these parts.
Who is that?
Jeffrey “The Big” Lebowski. Not to be confused with Jeffrey “The Dude” Lebowski. Especially in financial matters.
Similar taste in rugs, though.
Ah, thanks. It’s been ages since I watched that movie.
Venom Snake “Big Boss”, not to be confused with Solid Snake nor The Boss.
Liquid Snake feels very left out, as does Solidus Snake
Solidus Snake, not to be confused with Solid Snake
Obviously they’re not a golfer
Is this loss?
Being strong is being able to face the emotions you carry, sometimes you may need some help with that, and that’s okay.
Running away, hiding behind a facade or bottling it till you get a heart attack won’t make them go away… well… maybe besides that last one.
Maybe I’m off but… they do make you weak, right?
And we don’t just let emotions happen sometimes, we should acknowledge they are always there to one degree or another. There may be times when having a brave face is what is needed, but for most people most of the time, it isn’t
So, the real takeaway should be “you don’t need to be strong all the time, in fact, you can’t”
This really isn’t that profound as a man-to-man interaction. True friends are supportive. The big problem is when you show emotional sensitivity to a romantic partner. Too many men have been met with “the ick” when they open up to women.
Yeah kinda. But in the sense that having control over your emotions is strong and not being able to control them is weak. That does mean you are weak when you cry in public, but that is kinda the point of crying. Its a way to communicate to others that you need help or support or comfort or something. It also means that you are weak when you are unable to control your anger and punch someone in the face when you don’t get your way. It also means that you are strong when you take time to talk about your emotions, since that helps you be in control of them.
Control does not mean suppress, it actual means control. Know when to show them, use them, hide them, the whole shebang. It’s not an easy skill to master, so if you do, you’re definitely strong.
i read “weak” in this context as “unmanly”. as in, the concept of feeling things makes someone less of a man, that manliness is inherently tied to stoicism. which is a very common thing, and something that needs to be combated. using language that meatheads understand necessarily means losing some nuance and adding some bias.
I think the important thing to understand the meaning isn’t the “weak” as much as the “doesn’t make you”. Like they could have achieved the same meaning by saying, “You are not defined by the emotions you feel in times of trouble.”
I see the word “weak” as an emotional appeal rather than an actual important part of the meaning.
It is an emotional appeal. It’s an emotional appeal when used by red-pill pick-up artists, or sigma grindset life coaches, or your dad when he’s disappointed by your lack of stoicism.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with emotional appeals.
I disagree.
A lack of feeling is also a kind of weakness - usually it’s due to long-term suppression of emotion and leaves you out of touch with your inner self. Bottled up emotions tend to be rather damaging in the long term. Plus, you don’t just lose out on the hurtful/bad emotions.
Acknowledging and overcoming negative feelings takes more strength than simply ignoring them.
I think you’re misunderstanding/I’m not explaining well.
Accessing emotions is hard for a lot of us because we’ve been trained to clam up. But without that external factor, it wouldn’t be.
But when we do actually do it, it now takes effort and strength when it probably shouldn’t.
But the physical loss of control when, for example, crying, makes us physically vulnerable as well as emotionally.
I can see why times in history, having v people be scared and breaking down would jeopardize themselves or others. But we’ve magnified that, or lost the nuance.
Crying or raging or withdrawing in camp is safe, on a hunt or while driving a truck is the exception not the rule.
I wonder if this is a modern human problem or just a human problem
Maybe. In my experience showing certain emotions as a man at all can be ridiculed or seen as weakness - which is what I was referring to in my comment.
Allowing yourself (as you say) to be overwhelmed by emotion can definitely leave you weak/physically vulnerable - but the weakness here is not the emotions themselves but rather the lack of control.
I agree, I think in the context of the comic with „stoic and strong“ it does feel weird to say that they do not make you weak, because he is obviously struggling.
Like you I think the point should be more about generally building up to better deal with all our emotions - even unwanted ones - and be more comfortable while experiencing them.
But I also see how in the comic it‘s easier to say to a buddy that he is not weak to comfort him to open up and then later on circle back to his ideas of strength and stoicism. But I think we have to rethink standards and ideas about masculinity and emotions for sure.
For the unaware: a spill the tea app has been exposed open for a long time.
Pizzacakecomic may have engaged in such activities for awhile. This comic maybe a way to reconcile with said activities.
Doesn’t she have a husband and children? Why would she be on that app (and also, I’m not 100% on why being on the app is some deeply immoral thing, unless you’re abusing it)
‘May have’? So you don’t actually have any proof of that.
Do you want me to expose whois and email addresses in the comics strips community, or do you want to enjoy the grift-comic in peace?
If she’s on the list then she’s already been exposed, no?
You might want to find a different hobby. This hating on pizzacake doesn’t seem to be good on your mental health; now you’re even hallucinating things she ‘could possibly’ be doing in your head to be mad over.
Hmm. I usually like her comics but this one has “I pray for you” energy.
I dunno. Talking through problems and getting help can make people feel better.
The timing seems to scream: “but you see, it’s ok that I shared an affair with you know who.”
The fuck have you been smoking?
What affair?
