My switch is in the closet, so no. But, if I did currently play switch games, yeah.
I dislike the pricing, but I feel like it’s probably fair. I like comparing $price/hr-entertainment vs. going to the movies. I think for most games, it will still be better value. But, I can understand using other metrics. A dropout.tv subscription is only 6.99/mo and there’s at least a couple hours of new stuff being added to that each month, I think.
It’s fair for Mario kart where 7 others can join without owning a license. The social play elements can justify costs for a few.
Their narrow audience targeting could be a risky bet. We’ll see.
3 others can play Mario Kart or 7 other can play Smash Bros. on my Switch without any of them owning any games or hardware.
If a group of people contribute to owning game library it encourages social gaming. That’s the nintendo move imo.
We had a shared Wii U at my university dorm that everyone bought games for. You could do the same with a group Nintendo Switch.
I play my Switch now and then, and tend to dump unnecessary amounts of money towards always having the latest console, but there’s been nothing shown that has tempted me to get a Switch 2. I’ll wait until there’s a new Zelda game and an OLED model.
i REFUSE to pay 500 for the new switch, i don’t even want to play any Nintendo games at the moment.
It sounds like you shouldn’t buy the switch regardless of cost if you don’t want to play any Nintendo games on it.
Yeah if I didnt want to play any nintendo games, I probably wouldn’t buy a switch.
For Metroid, NGC games library and an NGC controller, hell fucking yeah
Sounds like you should buy a Nintendo Game Cube
Also you can use a GameCube Controller with the Switch 1.
Oh believe me I have tried, getting a used one in good condition, no chipped, here (SA) with working controllers is extremely hard. Forget mint, that’s impossible.
Also the games are all scratched for some reason and tend to not read sometimes
The memory cards, those are the easiest to solve but the rest is a problem
About the NGC controller on switch, yeah I was aware as well, but haven’t really needed it, i want it mostly to play NGC games. The switch controllers are really good for the switch games so I haven’t suffered on that front
I was able to get a GameCube (a little beat up but works great) at a gaming convention. They sold some games in good condition too. You can also find this stuff at small local gaming stores. I’ve had some luck with ordering from Etsy but it’s much better if you can inspect the goods in person.
You can also find GameCube controllers at those stores, but the ones I’ve been using are the modern reproductions Nintendo has made the last couple times a Smash Bros has come out. You can find these on Amazon. They are brand new authentic controllers, so much better than you can find even at the best local game shop.
1-2 Switch being a $60 game that didn’t come with the Switch was just as bogus. And now they’re doing it again.
Making the welcome tour paid is completely baffling.
they really want to make a new Wii Sports… but they fail to realise the difference between Wii Sports, Nintendo Land, 1 2 switch and Welcome Tour.
Wii Sports was a pack-in Game!
Wii Sports was a pack-in Game!
That’s their problem: the biggest game on the console that everyone knows was given away for free.
Execs: “Do you know how much money we would have made if we sold Wii Sports to people!? We do that from now on!”
Gamers: “F that, I’m not paying full price for a tutorial!”
Apparently the USA division head or whatever Reggie fought tooth and nail for wii sports to be an included free game. Nintendo Japan was very against the idea.
Nintendo Japan making gamer friendly decisions since nineteen ninety never
I’d say it paid off. Look whose remembered.
The console wouldn’t have sold as well without it. Wii Sports definitely contributed to the success of the console.
I would love to really give 1,2 Switch a try, but I never will.
And good… Nintendo Land sucked
In my home, Nintendo Land is an all time great game. To this day, whenever my nieces visit, they demand to play Nintendo Land.
I made my comment knowing it would be controversial
I am glad that you and you nieces find joy in Nintendo Land ❤️
Nintendo is on the same level as HP for me. As in they will never get another cent from me.
hewlett packard or harry potter?
Sauce
Yes
Lovecraft
Horse Power
… yes
hey at least nintendo’s hardware is half decent compared to hp
The product design is very good. The game distribution is very bad. Overall a average product.
I want the switch but with a steams sto… Wait!
I’m still flabbergasted we’ve arrived at games costing 100€ now. Not some collector’s edition, just the normal game. On a console that’ll set you back 500€ on its own, not to mention the service subscriptions. Even the god damn next-gen improvements for existing games supported through backwards compat now cost a 2-digit sum. What’s next, subscriptions for device features (which you already paid big money for) to work like it’s a freaking BMW? It’s just utter insanity, and people are still paying for all that shit.
oh boy, do I have news for you! The Nintendo Switch 2 has a C-Button on its controller which opens their new feature “Game Chat” for which a Nintendo Switch Online subscription is necessary. This means there is now a dedicated button on the controller, which will open a popup that tells you to buy their subscription!
And it definitely isn’t going to get accidentally pressed at the worst possible moment, interrupting your gameplay and likely making you lose! Especially in an online game!
What’s next, subscriptions for device features (which you already paid big money for) to work like it’s a freaking BMW?
I mean, yes, they already announced that in the direct. The new GameChat built-in-discord thingy is only free until next March, at which point you’ll need a subscription to continue using it
I mean the switch already had that with cloud saves and multi-player locked behind a subscription.
For me, they’re the same price they’ve always been 🏴☠️.
Yarrr!
They will keep doing it as long as people keep buying it.
Having a lot of fun on games that cost a tiny fraction of that. I think Isonzo is the most expensive I bought in the past few years and its £40, got it in 2022.
Those backwards compat costs ain’t optional either. Either payup (for each game) for super HD or don’t play your existing games at all.
Almost all Switch games are natively compatible with the Switch 2. Stop spreading fake info, it does not help making whatever case you’re trying to make.
They are not natively compatible. Otherwise every switch game will run just fine on the new one, right?
Yeah, bad wording on my side. I meant they do not need upgrade packs.
I guess they created some internal translation layer (comparable to the Wine project?) to run the games.
Where is your source? And no they are not natively compatible. The systems have different architectures!
Nintendo website list all games for compatibility issues.
https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/transfer-guide/compatible-games/
There’s a difference between switch 2 edition (upgraded versions) and original switch 1 versions. It can run both, you don’t need the upgrade (unless you want the newer features).
Do the switch 1 titles run in native (e.g. not upscaling) 1080p without paying more since that should just be a simple render change?
Games that ran at 1080p in docked mode should be able to do that on Switch 2, presumably the console could be smart enough to run the game at that resolution even in portable mode.
Otherwise, that definitely depends on the game engine and game programming. Not every game can handle arbitrary resolution changes.
Some games will be getting free updates for that, yes.
Uh do you have a source on that? Because both have a different architecture.
It’s all ARM with hardware from the same OEM.
Yes there’s a lot of big differences, but Nintendo certainly demanded backwards compatibility from nVidia, so any major CPU and GPU instructions which games are dependent on are certainly either still implemented or emulated properly.
https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/transfer-guide/compatible-games/
They’re still in the testing process for compatibility. Any change can break assumptions the developer made, even if it’s just tiny, so some games might need patches, but so far that’s very few games.
So you don’t okay
Yes the switch and the switch two uses ARM architecture but an arm5 differs enough from arm7 that you need a translation layer.
But what would give Nintendo more money, Proton on the system preinstalled or demanding the customer to pay up (which afaik was on one of the screens to see during the direct)
https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/tech-specs/
It explicitly mentions that switch 1 game cards works, without an asterisk. Wouldn’t be nice to state that and then don’t support the games without paying extra. The only thing they’ve stated on that is the compatibility thing from the prior link, and that specific games have paid upgrades but don’t need payments to play the original version.
(unless the upgrades are equivalent to a big DLC with significant content addons that’s pretty greedy, IMHO, but it’s still not required to play 🤷)
The Nintendo Switch™ 2 Edition of a game is a bundle that includes the original game and its upgrade pack,
are you serious??? what the fuck
And on top of all that, patent trolling to hamstring any competition. I’m done encouraging their nonsense with my money.
Remember their attempt at patenting relative motion? Absolutely absurd…
I could understand if it was a cutting edge powerhouse system. But it’s apparently somewhere around PS4 Pro level hardware.
Which is, to be fair, impressive for a highly mobile device. Kudos to those engineers. All that scummy fucking extortion shit still is fucked up though, no matter how you look at it. The only reason anyone buys this is because of the brand and its beloved exclusive franchises. In a more fair environment they’d be utterly demolished if they tried to pull of this bullshit, and the practice of preventing you to play your own older games to make you buy them over and over again (or hell, even not owning your games anymore) would be outright banned.
Hello, mister preacher, I’d like to join your choir.
Did you expect them to keep 1990s pricing forever?
Putting aside the fact how little the median citizen earned more in wages in comparison to the prices going up:
No, of course not. However it’s not just the games and the console that we’re talking about. We’re talking about them monetizing every single bit more and more, especially adding subscriptions and taking away ownership. In regards to Nintendo at least they still ship real cartridges with the working game on them, but any digital purchase is neither owned by you nor can be preserved without the help of hackers. They try to continuously make money while giving less and then on top of that the prices went up.
Not to mention their patent troll, anti-preservation and fangame-killing practices. Just in case anyone wants to argue for the company being “not as bad as others” or sth.
Is charging for online play not common anymore? I was paying for Xbox live last time I owned an Xbox in like 2009.
Nintendo was the last holdout and started charging in 2018. Only PC gamers don’t have to pay extra to play online now.
And if they start charging PC gamers I’ll start figuring out how to self host again.
Fuck corpo scum, choom.
This is why PC is and always will be better than a traditional console. “Oh the dev won’t do this, good thing the modding scene already has a workaround.”
it was never common on pc
Well said!
No, I expect (not really, because greed) that as companies make bank with not only charging for subscriptions and MTX, but the fact that the gaming industry made around $20 billion in the 90s and $184 billion in 2022, that they can charge reasonable prices and still make money hand over fist. But I get it, they charge the absolute maximum that gamers will tolerate, and it’s ultimately gamers’ fault.
All companies charge the price that consumers will tolerate, that is literally how prices work. Every single thing you spend money on is based on this principle
And yet, Steam prices exist. Consistently less than console, and I know they could charge more and people would pay. Maximizing the price of everything all the time is the least consumer-friendly way to make money, and most certainly not the only way.
It’s not like they’re making baby formula here. They’re making videogames. Nobody is entitled to a $60 cartridge
If a price is seen to be unreasonable, it is the duty of the consumer to not bend over and take whatever is charged without complaint, whether it’s for necessities or on luxury good like video games. It is not necessary to use anti-consumer practices to make money, despite what capitalism has trained you to think.
I, for one, think we live in a pretty good world if the thing that drives us to complain on the internet is a modest increase in price for entertainment goods once every 30 years. I’m not going to bemoan capitalism because I have to shell out a few more bucks for Mario Kart; that actual insanity
If they had kept 1990s prices, they would already be $100 or more. 🤦♂️ You know how fucking expensive NES and SNES games were back then? They weren’t often $50 or cheaper. They were often $90-120!
My copy of teenage mutant ninja turtles tournament fighters for the NES was 50 bucks in 1994.
That’s a $50 price tag for a “previous generation” console.
Inflation adjusted that’s $111
Inflation adjusted it’s apparently (less than) $30, because that’s one of 13 games in the Cowabunga Collection.
My mom was like “you gotta be fucking kidding me” lol
I wish Nintendo would catch up on Nintendo Lore. When is Link going to go relax with Zelda, only for Toadsworth to exit a pipe and ask if Link has heard of the Mushroom Initiative.
We could call it Super Smash Bros. Avengers.
its like they’re trying to make PlayStation a monopoly, or is it all apart of the plan?
idk i guess
Cant be… Astro’s Playroom was free.
original gameplay supported by lore
i mean pretty dang close but i think there’s a slight difference between injecting people with praying mantis DNA and praying mantises creating mantis society by themselves
Sounds like two new testing opportunities. Get to it!
“Will run on your machine”
If you have a PC. Otherwise, it requires special hardware, too.
Procedes to install Linux on [INSERT CONSOLE HERE].
You have to go through a magical girl transformation first
Is unix socks not enough?
NO
Blahaj and estrogen is also required along with a spiny skirt :3
The estrogen is part of the magical girl transformation
You must be the pride of [SUBJECT HOMETOWN HERE]
No it will run on my oven
