Yes, we need to accept that it is broken and move on to something that isn’t
Let’s call it Newgle
Some of us left it behind quite awhile ago:-).
The problem is that a fuckton of the web is SEO poisoned, so even a better search engine will find garbage because for a lot of subjects garbage is all that’s available.
The best chef in the world can’t turn shit into anything you want to eat.
This is what they want you to think but they’re hardly even trying. Google is shitty on purpose because if initial search results are bad, you “engage” more and see more ads. And since they’re not worried about competition because google is the default search nearly everywhere – most people don’t even know there are alternatives, google is synonymous with search – they can enshittify their search as much as they want. https://pluralistic.net/2024/04/04/teach-me-how-to-shruggie/ https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/
I don’t understand what you are saying. If some other search methodology were to use the same exact methodology of Google in paying attention to the SEO terms, then obviously it would fall prey to the same thing that killed Google. Similarly if the method was not precisely 100% identical yet still used SEO, then it too would be poisoned.
However, if the search method were to ignore SEO entirely and focus purely on the content of the page, plus other metrics such as number of links to that page, from other highly-ranked websites, but independently of SEO, then it would not be poisoned by SEOs. Although it might suck due to other causes, either related or not.
Anyway it all depends so heavily on what you want to find - e.g. a replacement for Google Maps is harder, and Google Images is also fairly great too.
i can’t tell if you know more or less than me about what SEO is
Probably less, in their modern formulation. I knew more about past ones but it’s been awhile and I have no idea how much of that is even still relevant.
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99% of users marked this site as shit -> no longer display it
100000 “users” then popped up and left the same glowing 5-star review > must be a great site.
It really isn’t that hard to tell the difference between bots activities and humans. If Facebook can detect a nipple in a picture in microseconds they can tell that “hmm a surprisingly high number of IoT fridges have strong opinions about this anti-Putin blogger, starting last week” isn’t valid.
That sounds like the millions of doctored amazon reviews and social media bot-boosted content should be dealt with by next week then.
DuckDuckGo is just Bing.
Please explain
Nice. Downvoted for asking for more information.
It’s powered by Bing. That’s all. Compare DDG results with a private Bing session.
It’s not just Bing. They added an animal mascot. :-D
Also Quant, Ecosia, Startpage
What do you like about those over searx?
I love searx but it’s slow 🙁
Apologies if you already know this but there are tons of different instances of searx hosted by different people.
It’s possible the speed issue is related to the specific instance you tried, do you remember what it was?
Here is the list of all them: https://searx.space/
As I type this I realize I’m probably just not sensitive to slowness since I use tor for all my browsing lol
This is precisely why I don’t use searx.
I just want to quickly find shit, not maintain a list of instances that all have slightly different functionality and frontends.I self-hosted it, and used it for years and liked it. But the results take 3, 4, 5 seconds to come in as you wait for it to run the search on all the different engines. I just tested searx.be above and found the same thing.
When I use any other search engine, I get results in half a second or less. I know it’s only a few seconds but it’s definitely noticeable when you use a different search engine.
DuckDuckGo has AI now.
Oh fuck!
Looks like you can turn it off though - https://duckduckgo.com/settings#aifeatures.
And use what instead of??
Duckduckgo, searxng, and if you are willing to pay, kagi is far better than google was.
Kagi has some problems
WTF is this sexy Garfield
Google has been mining your dreams
broken, but not broke. Sadly.
I’m in Finland so I can only give a sad forlorn look toward Italy and say “First time?”
Anyway.
Now:
Me: “What’s the weather like today?”
Computer: “It’ll be 25°C or so.”
Me: “How do you know that?”
Computer: “I looked up your location and queried the national weather service.”
Soon:
Me: “What’s the weather like today?”
Computer: “It’ll be 25°C or so.”
Me: “How do you know that?”
Computer: “Fuck if I know. I’ve just learned that is a thing that people apparently say in situations like this.”
You: “How do you know that?”
Computer: “u/trollface69420 says ‘Its always 25°C or so lol’”
Bring back Infoseek
Well in fairness I’ve never been to Italy, so it’s possible it doesn’t exist.
I have been so it does exist. However I’ve never been to Greenland, so Greenland may not exist.
Yeah, but I haven’t met you so…
Greenland is just a trick played on Canadians
Today I was trying to look up the syntax for how to search before a certain date on Google. The google AI overview turned out to be wrong
Jupiter, Uranus, and Neptune also have rings, so the search from 2 years ago was also inaccurate.
If I ask for “planet with rings” and my first result is Saturn, I consider the search functional.
If my first result is an ad for planet fitness, I do not.
Denying reality for delusions is always an option.
Well, google’s American, and American’s like talking about “iddly” a lot. From context it would appear to be related to Italy. So perhaps try googling “does iddly exist” (tldr: it does).
