So prove all metaphysics wrong. Your claim is “all religion is wrong” so you have the burden of proof. If you can’t do it, you’re unable to draw these conclusions. Note that this is loosely equivalent to someone saying “my religion is correct” so you’re going to face the same uphill battle those folks face. It’s a ridiculous and unfounded claim.

I also take umbrage at your unjustified personal attacks on some of my peers from academia and my professional life whose search for meaning has led them to vastly different conclusions than me. Some of the best people I know have faiths I think are dumb yet agree with me on empathy and class struggle. You’ve not empirically proven you have any high ground, much less the moral or societal ones, so you’re really firing half-cocked here.

We do have inherent designed morality, because morality exists and we know of it because of the fruit of the tree in the knowledge of good and evil. So since morality exists and is real, everyone has a knowledge of it from the beginning.

However, Atheism does like to contravene morality and redesign the moral compass to suit whatever agenda someone would like to push. An example being is the dehumanisation of Jews and people being desensitised to violence to perpetuate the holocaust. Showing opposition brought social and political persecution, all to benefit an authoritarian agenda of militarism and not balming themselves.

Or for a more present and relevant example, foetuses being dehumanised and abortion being normalised and showing any opposition to it may bring social persecution, as to benefit a capitalist agenda and being told “it’s for the good of our freedom” while it actually just relieves the state’s responsibility to care for it’s young and to keep young women in wage slavery.

So yes, Atheists can be moral. But my point is- once you throw God’s solid and unchanging word out of the window, you can warp and “normalise” immoral things and do what you want.

Not quite right. If you get upset that someone pickpocketed your phone when I know for a fact that you were just bragging last week about having shoplifted something from a store, I might say “That’s a pot calling the kettle black”, meaning “You are not recognizing that you are being hypocritical for calling out an action that you yourself are guilty of.”

A better phrase to indicate a likeness would be “You are preaching to the choir.” However, I don’t know an expression which would encapsulate the sentiment you were attempting to project.

Pot calling the kettle black is used when somebody is making a hypocritic statement.

There’s nothing wrong with a Protestant discussing stuff with a Catholic. They agree on 95% of things.

I know the history of military chaplains. They were particularly important when the soldiers were all expected to be Christian (if not devoutly Catholic) and not only needed last rites, but forgiveness when they killed in the line of duty (which has always been a morally questionable act).

Nowadays they’re still presumed to be Christian and are spiritual counselors first, with a major presumption the former serves as an adequate replacement for the latter. My understanding of it comes from being a peer with some peer counseling experience among veterans who suffered from TBI or PTSD or both, and who got fucked by their service and the DVA, which is how they ended up in the same program for insolvent civilians as I was. The DFA told them to walk it off, so they ended up sitting in a group circle with me. And I got to hear the tales that drove combat-hardened soldiers to tears and despair.

When someone comes to me telling me they’re thinking of enlisting, it’s their stories I tell, a few out of thousands. Not of horrors on the field (though bullying in the ranks and sexual assault infest the troops like lice), but that he US armed forces don’t care about the marbles of their enlisted, and will gladly leave veterans on the street in the cold. Even if they pay for your college tuition (which they won’t if they can weasel out of doing so) you’re at high risk of coming home too traumatized to get a degree, or a decent job.

The troopers of the US are still dealing with the aftermath of the spiritual readiness subprogram from the George W. Bush administration, when Rumsfeld was still dreaming of devoting divisions of marines to be soldiers of God and non-Christians (anyone who wasn’t specifically Protestant Evangelical that was approved by administration) was downgraded and forced to attend Evangelical services listed as training. Probably because it was rough depending on PMCs to clear villages of civilians who were in the way, and if God tells you to massacre a village of civilians, you don’t ask if it’s legal or ethical.

So no, I expect chaplains in the US Navy to be about as functional when it comes to counseling as school chaplains in Tennessee that might be replacing school counselors and school psychologists. And I expect chaplains to explicitly balk when a patient has life experiences or identity that runs against a chaplain’s identity. Even when the LGBT+ or socialism-curious soldier is reporting for counsel because he can’t visit his family because everywhere he looks on the homefront are danger points where the enemy could be hiding, and his family wants him to tell war stories, but none of his experiences are the kind of thing they show in action movies.

And the funny thing is this is a real problem. It’s not about if the world were a better place. Chaplains who aren’t adequately trained to counsel disrupt unit cohesion and diminish combat readiness. It would be a benefit to our units if they had access to real counseling, and could actually report a sexual assault without being silenced and discharged. But Washington cares more about its ideology and identity politics and getting hits on social media more than it cares about a fighting force that is actually functional.

Counter-recruitment writes itself, and it’s been this way for decades in the US armed forces. Long before my recruiter lied to me and bullied me in the late 1980s in a blunt effort to get me to enlist.