• stanleytweedle@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    As shitty and tragic as this is I have to smile at the thought that at some point these fucks will ‘patrol’ the wrong women and get righteously stomped.

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    8 months ago

    The solution is so simple to me. Please explain why we can’t just have gender neutral bathrooms with actually private stalls/changing rooms and just a shared handwashing area?

      • Jojo, Lady of the West@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        8 months ago

        Bathroom bills don’t even seem like they increase bathroom privacy. The only passable justification (which still relies on demonstrably false assumptions and in fact completely backfires in practice) is to “protect women” from “predators”.

        In reality, trans people are less likely to be predators than cis, and bathroom bills primarily serve to increase the number of cis people being accosted in bathrooms because they don’t look “normal” enough. So it’s still completely unjustifiably stupid. But it’s the only justification that even makes any sense at the outset even when you believe the fear mongering lies.

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        8 months ago

        Eh. The vast majority of feminists I know regularly complain that they don’t feel safe being around men.

        They use rhetoric similar to racists by saying men are more likely to commit acts of violence than women, so it’s okay to discriminate against them.

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          8 months ago

          When you say things like this is it a Strawoman or a Straw-woman or Strawperson? I feel like there isn’t a good way to spell it.

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      8 months ago

      Because that costs more to install per toilet.

      Money is why you cannot have privacy, safety, or a better experience.

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        8 months ago

        So don’t. It’s a different room, enclosed off from all others. Like a bathroom is intended to be and, indeed, is like, in just about every other civilized country in the world.

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    9 months ago

    So I guess now we need our own vigilantes to keep those other vigilantes in check. Should have purged the remnants of the Confederacy back in 1865, no amnesty for traitors.

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      8 months ago

      It’s Republicans, not Florida. Just take a look around the country.

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        8 months ago

        It’s Christianity and always has been. You can’t have a minority be left in peace and distinct in a Christian country. Their book tells them that there is only one way to live, only one way to salvation, only one truth. When you have such a radical monotheistic view of humanity the unavoidable result will be to murder the Other. Any follower of Christ who claims to be tolerant is at best inconsistent at worse bidding their time.

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      8 months ago

      This isn’t about Florida. This is about the Republicans becoming the Nazis, and needing minorities to demonize.

      This garbage is happening in other red states too; Florida is just ahead of the curve.

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        8 months ago

        Fuck Florida. Fuck Tennessee. Fuck every red state harming people. Fuck the GOP. Fuck Israel. Fuck 'em. I’m not blind to this being a rightwing problem.

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        8 months ago

        We should really normalize unisex bathrooms.

        I don’t care what you’ve got in your pants, I just want to fucking pee. Or I very, very badly need to poop. Do whatever you need to with changing diapers or taking your toddler to the bathroom, I don’t care.

        The fact that we have different bathrooms points to a societal problem. Men need to keep their hands to themselves, and all we do by having separate bathrooms is perpetuate the idea that men will assault women in bathrooms.

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    9 months ago

    Something like 80 years ago there were no gender specific bathrooms. It was just, The Bathroom

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      I just made a comment how the protest solution is simple. Sledgehammer the urinals and then all bathrooms are genderless…

      Do that more than once and I almost guarantee the establishment says “fuck it, we’re not replacing those again”

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    9 months ago

    This makes me so sad.

    Thank goodness I’ll be out of this horrorshow state soon.

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    8 months ago

    Oh good, any cis-woman who happens to look more on the masculine side will be in trouble now too.

    Edit: Added cis. Apologies for not doing that.

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      This is something I’m kind of scared of. I’m a cis woman, but I have facial hair for medical reasons. I keep it because it’s what nature gave me and I kinda like how it looks, and people generally don’t seem to care. I do fear, though, that I might be harassed for it someday.

      I thought of this with the whole Planet Fitness fiasco. Many, many women shave their faces, but the “can always tell” crowd is so sure that they know men from women.

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        One of my wife’s cis co-workers has a mustache. She definitely would look like “a man in a dress” to these bigoted fucks. She probably already gets harassed all the time, which is awful because she’s really nice and loves working with the public (she’s a librarian).

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        Yeah, I’m a trans woman and my girlfriend is cis but she has way more body hair than me because of our ethnicities. She’s probably safe because she has the body type of a Paleolithic fertility idol, but these people aren’t rational and that’s scary.

        Like I’m also scared for myself, but I’ve been living with that fear for myself for my entire adult life, so I’m used to it.

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      Oh they have been. And because masculine cis women outnumber trans women guess who’s going to be persecuted more by raw quantity

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    9 months ago

    Excuse me sir, we are required to check for penises and vaginas at the door. Thanks for understandi…dang dog! Is that thing 12 inches?

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    8 months ago

    Fuck it. New protest…

    Take a sledge hammer to every urinal… all bathrooms are gender neutral now.

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    9 months ago

    Any wonder LGBT folks are one of the largest gun buying demographics in the past few years? Ain’t that something?

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    Just put enough stalls there aswell as urinals and make it gender neutral. Most men don’t care about women in their bathrooms anyway. It’s - as demonstrated by this article - women that care. Wether it be gender neutral bathrooms or trans athletes it’s almost exclusively biological women that are the only ones with something to lose.

    Where I go swimming there’s almost always female staff doing cleaning in the men’s locker and shower rooms and nobody gives a damn. Good luck putting a male cleaner in the female shower space though.

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        “Uh…”

        When anyone is the victim of physical violence 95 times out of 100 the perpetrator is male and the vast majority of victims are also male. This is not a competition nor the point of what I said.

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                And that is false how? What do trans people have to lose here?

                I’m not talking about a physical threat. If a trans woman joins a women’s athletic competition the biological women are the ones who lose. With gender neutral bathrooms again it’s biological women that are on the losing side. Trans people have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I as a guy have zero issue with a woman showing up in the men’s bathroom. She can even hold my dick while I piss if she likes. It’s biological women that throw all equality and inclusion out the window the first moment a woman with a deep voice and a cock shows up in the shower room.

                And again; I’m all for gender neutrality. It doesn’t affect me one bit so I don’t care.

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      I fuck hate guns but I am starting to understand it now. I am not a member of the LGBT but if I were I might consider going around armed.

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        One thing to keep in mind is armed allies keep the persecuted safe and ensure that the vigilantes stop before the moral panic moves to something they are