• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    Lot of businesses backed up Hitler and his Nazis too.

    A lot of them even came out of that whole situation in pretty good shape.

    • houstoneulers@lemmy.world
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      IBM, Coke, and Ford had no issues doing business in nazy germany, even if they were under a different name. Business only cares about steady and growing revenues/margins no matter how it comes about it.

    • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      The most important lesson I learned in Hebrew school was that the Holocaust would have not been possible without IBM.

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    If it was a genuine mistake he would have sincerely apologised. Only a nazi doesn’t apologise for making a nazi salute.

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        I remember reading he also just laughed it off and said people are just paranoid and see what they want to see.

        A pretty good tell-tale sign of a fascist is that they will never apologize or admit doing wrong. You have to appear strong at all times.

  • xenomor@lemmy.world
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    If Elon walked out wearing a red arm band with a swastika, the ADL would be talking about its history as a Hindu symbol.

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      “Mr. Musk has provided us with another delicate moment, demonstrating the ancient Roman salute combined with a Hindu symbol. It appears that the talk about the AI-operated gas chambers was a bit of an awkward slip, and it’s best we do not further aggravate the division of our nation.”

  • Count042@lemmy.ml
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    Never forget that the ADL spied on American citizens for Apartheid South Africa on behalf of Israel during the Reagan administration.

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      on behalf of Israel

      Not exactly a good argument to discredit them saying it is not a nazi salute. An organization working on behalf of israel is unlikely to support nazi behaviors, no?

      I’m not making any claims about the ADL beyond having some serious doubt that they would go along with nazi-ism.

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        The ADL is atrocious. I’m Jewish. This was a variation of a Nazi salute.

        Also, Zionist and Nazi propaganda have quite the overlap about “chosen people” and “master race”. It never sat well with me as a kid which is why I became antizionist around age 10 or so.

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        This was a literal investigated criminal case, this isn’t supposition.

        Your serious doubts is nothing more than ignorance.

        EDIT: Another thing that is not supposition. Israel was one of the final supporters of Apartheid South Africa. They supported them even after the US stopped.

        Pick up a history book.

        And Yes, Israel has just spent the last 15 months committing what every human rights organization has declared a genocide. Can’t get more nazi’ish then committing a genocide.

      • chaogomu@lemmy.world
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        Israel has a complex relationship with Nazis.

        During WW2, the Lehi terrorist organization actually tried to join in the war on the side of the Nazis.

        One of the men behind this initiative went onto become prime minister of Israel in the early 1980s.

        The Lehi terrorist organization folded into the IDF in 1949.

        Now, there was a philosopher who was a member of Lehi, he took Nazi ideology and sort of swapped master race and the undesirable race. God’s chosen people had to be the master race, and the Arabs who lived in on the land were declared to be undesirable.

        As a note, the Lehi prime minister was Netanyahu’s political mentor.

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    People seem to forget that the ADL is not a Jewish advocacy group, they are an Israeli lobby group. Israel is a far-right government that is actively engaged in genocide.

    • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Also remember it’s in Israel’s best interest to conflate Jews with zionists and make people worldwide hate Jews so they make Aaliyah to Israel and create babies for the IDF. Also the goal of the “birthright” program (what a fascist name right?!)

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    Reminder that Zionists like to collaborate with antisemites, in the hopes of accelerating emigration to Israel.

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    Regardless of if he intended to do a Nazi salute or not exposing the public to that level of cringe should be a capital offense.

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      He’s laughing with them, they’re out there gaslighting people for him.

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        I’d imagine Musk thinking everybody are laughing with him always because he is so desperate for validation and those that he can’t gaslight himself are with him is why he is a nazi.

        I’d imagine Trump to laugh to himself with self indulgence of all his smarts, and mostly scoffing and despise everyone that supports him or not including those closest to him and his own family. Thinking of it, it’s not impossible he despises them all because they are supporting him. Idiots that allow themselves to be herded like sheep by a wolf like himself.

        • spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          In this case, they are. The AIPAC Defense League is dickriding Leon Skum because he’s in tight with the new furher, and both of them are cool with israel leveling Palestine.

          These are one side of the same coin.

        • The Snark Urge@lemmy.world
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          By all accounts I’ve heard, the man has no sense of humour at all and scarcely ever find anything funny. Fact is, we’re in this mess because he can’t take a joke.

    • Yggstyle@lemmy.world
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      I’d feel pretty safe if I literally controlled the platform everyone was speaking on, too.

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      Anti-Defamation League. Basically a zionist organization that goes after anything they percieve as being anti-semitic. Their definition of anti-semitic typically seems to include vocally supporting Palestine & not supporting Israel.

      Part of what makes this noteworthy is they call anti-semitism often in dubious cases where it is not present - so them defending Elon sieg heiling multiple times is unusual, but also likely a calculated move to not distance their organization from president musk’s administration.

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      They’re an organization that calls out antisemitism.

      Problem is saying anything against Israel, or pro-Palestine will get you on their public list of antisemites, along side your local neo-nazi militia members.

      It’s Zionist propaganda and intimidation.

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        They spied for a foreign government. They should have been required to register as foreign agents and the only reason they didn’t was because the foreign government was Israel. Instead they just had to notify the US citizens they spied upon that they spied upon them, and what they discovered.

    • evidences@lemmy.world
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      ADL stands for Anti Defamation League, the first paragraph on the about us page on their website reads.

      ADL is the leading anti-hate organization in the world. Founded in 1913, its timeless mission is “to stop the defamation of the Jewish people and to secure justice and fair treatment to all.”

        • PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Nah, you just gotta ask them what a fair treatment for a Palestinian would be. Probably not anywhere near what would be fair treatment for an Israeli. Or most other folks.

            • HikingVet@lemmy.ca
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              Yeah, Israel like other places that commit crimes against humanity aren’t into respecting their victims after death, just like they didn’t do it while they were alive.

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            According to the Israel government, the “fair treatment” for Palestinians is the “Endlösung”.