Could someone tell him that Trump is not the president of the EU? Not our circus not our fascists.
If these companies aren’t subject to EU fines then I don’t see why they should be allowed to operate in the EU
Zuckerberg? I 'ardly know 'er!
This is why the moderation is changing. Similar story with Trump, Apple, xitter, and Elon. Lots of corners to cut and money to be made if you kiss his boots.
JD Vance has suggested that American support for NATO should be predicated on the European Union not regulating Elon Musk and his X social media platform, formerly known as Twitter.
Trump vowed last month not to let the EU “take advantage of our companies,” saying Apple CEO Tim Cook had called him to complain about an EU antitrust fine and back-tax order. There may soon be more to complain about, as Apple is set to get the EU’s first fine for not complying with digital competition rules, Bloomberg reported.
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-elon-musk-x-tech-social-media-politics-elections-eu/
Trump can fuck with NATO or not, but those countries have nukes. Western Europe is not Ukraine. His military leverage is lacking.
Lmao, how would Trump ever do that?
If you want to sell your product/service in the EU, you comply with EU laws and if you don’t comply you pay the fines. And if you continue to not comply your product/service will be banned and you will not be able to sell it legally anymore. And in case of a webservice like Facebook the site can get blocked real fast.
He’ll do what he already wants to do, drive a between the US and the EU by adding tariffs and just generally finding Europe’s weak points and sticking his finger in them til either the EU rolls back its laws, or he completely fractures the relationship. I’m guessing tech companies don’t want to fracture the relationship because they still want to be able to sell their shit there.
Maybe he’ll try to annex the whole EU instead of just Greenland
I have a few tinfoil hat theories. You know, the kinda shit you come up with trying to plan for the worst.
One of them is that all these villainous world superpowers are going to get together and basically redraw the world. Eg: US will say they won’t defend S. Korea, Taiwan, or Ukraine if they can get Canada and Greenland, that kinda shit.
And there’s nothing to stop them
Like fuck there’s not going to be anything to stop them. All this “taking Canada” rhetoric is really making me fully understand the situation Ukraine is in. I always thought I’d find some way to dodge a draft, but if it came down to fighting to preserve my country’s sovereignty, I’m taking all you Americans down with me
Half of us would happily join you
I really hope so. The way it’s been treated so far, as if it’s just a funny joke that we might consider (Canada would turn the US blue forever!, etc), even by more left leaning news corps like CNN has really left a sour taste in my mouth.
In a recent CNN clip, they were talking about how because we just “threw out our PM”, we might actually want to be American. Like, no, we’re a sovereign country, do not joke about invading us you actual fucking nazis, Christ.
Fwiw, CNN is owned by right wingers now. Most of our MSM is
Ah fair enough, that explains it a bit then. It’s incredible that we’ve gotten to the point where the alt right/Republicans are just casually joking about invading
countriesALLIESQuick edit: I guess it has been a very unifying thing for Canadians though. The whole situation has really brought together the left and the right here against the US (excluding Danielle Smith but she’s insane)
Like literally what Nazi Germany and Stalnist USSR attempted to do leading up to Ww2, creating spheres of influence and preemptively dividing up territory. (Of course the Nazis also knew they were going to turn around and try and take the USSR too)
Yep that’s where the theory comes from. History is repeating itself perfectly
I’d say that’s crazy and never going to happen, but looking at the past 10 years have taught me I have no idea what can happen and what can’t.
Alternatively, we, in the EU could just… Stop using Facebook, Instagram, X, TikTok or whatever being used to harvest our data?
Add WhatsApp to the list
Hell, Whatsapp may be the worst of them all.
And unfortunately, hard to move away from because so many people are using it and it’s hard to push other people to change. I’ve heard of a bill being discussed to force WhatsApp to become interoperable with other messaging platforms that use similar protocols, like Signal. I have WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram, but rarely use the other two because most people I know don’t. The minute interoperability happens I’m ditching WhatsApp, but I’m sure the Zuck will do all it can to prevent it…
The Zuck will embrace it. It’s the other messengers that have stated that they would not work with meta. And I’m honestly with them.
I have zero hope for any possible open standard for messengers to not be comandeered by google/fb et al so that it’ll end up to be a net loss in privacy and security. I have no interest to compromise my own privacy because aunt Karen doesn’t want to switch apps.
I feel like having it being interoperable with something like signal defeats the whole purpose of signal
Whatsapp already implemented this, but as far as I know nobody took the offer. E.g. Signal and Threema don’t want to connect with WhatsApp.
I see… Yeah, I guess user data could leak through their interaction with WhatsApp, and a messaging service that whose biggest selling argument is privacy wouldn’t want that… It’s a shame. Guess I’ll just keep using them with the people who do.
Really, governments should make and moderate their own social media services, the basic concept is a great communication medium for everything from like reporting potholes to promoting blood donation drives to quickly sharing updates during emergency weather situations etc., the kinds of basic citizen service stuff governments should be doing, but when profit notices creep in we get all this data harvesting and Skinner-box algorithmic manipulation that ruins things
I hate it how Facebook is a better source of public safety information than some government websites.
If we need to travel the snowy highways you can get better updates on the conditions than the official highways website.
If you can even navigate the garbage official websites. That’s alwaysy issue, there is way too much crap and nothing is straightforward ever.
Yes, too many times I have come across website pages telling me to visit “webpage name” if I’m looking to solve “issue that I need to solve” and then they don’t even include the link to said webpage I have to search and find it myself.
Where I live the government does all this already.
Can Canada get on board with that too
Can the U.S. also…, oh goddamnit
I don’t know, can it?
I thought Facebook was an Irish company :')
How exactly would Trump stop that? He doesn’t even know.
Tariffs.
Trump’s answer to everything is tariffs - i.e. punishing Americans for buying products from countries he doesn’t like.
Trump is destroying the US’s ability to use soft power when the world needs it the most to stop imperialism from the likes of Russia and China.
He will be using the US to empower imperialism all around. The CP* videos they took of him in Mozcow keep him on a tight leash from his soviet overlord.
*That’s my take about them: The pissing as a kink is totally neglectable - the age of the pissers is his real problem, see also his daughter and Epstein and all that.
lol the world views the US as just as imperialist and fuck your “soft power.” You’re in for a surprise if you think the US is a force against imperialism, especially under Trump.
What new regions will be lay claim to tomorrow? How much of Syria are you going to pay for Israel to occupy? Democrats did that one…
You’re in for a surprise if you think the US will be a force against imperialism, especially under Trump.
Where did they say they thought Trump would be a force against imperialism?
My broader point is that the US has always been imperialist.
okay? who denied that?
“destroying the US ability to fight imperialism”
I guess we can consider that “of other nations,” sure. Very noble
Am I allowed to say that I trust US Big Tech Corps more than my government and my police officers? Meta still is more ethical (even with the DEI programs cutoff and all the rest) than some corrupt governments.
You’re allowed to say it, even believe it. But your analysis is faulty. Please add a little context and youll see why. Trust to do what? Corrupt with what goals? It seems you have no idea…
I live in a country with an oppressive government who discriminates people based on race, religion, sexual orientation and already blatantly favours the wealthy with total impunity. Nothing can be worse than this.
I have a lot of ideas that can be worse than that.
That is an insane proposition. You are trusting your elected officials less than a billionaire that sees you at best as a cow to milk. I cannot comprehend such a thought .
You are not Italian. Even our government sees citizens as cows to milk, especially if you are an employee and cannot fraud the tax system like everyone else does.
You elect the government. Not to mention they have way more oversight. There is a system of checks and balances. For sure it may seem it’s totally corrupt and not working, but that’s nothing compared to what the billionaires have in mind.
