Bookings spiked by 1,200 percent post-election, and IUD signups more than octupled.

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    17 days ago

    Because a society can only survive through procreation. This incessant push on social media to demonize children is seen by many as, at least in part, a hostile effort by bad actors like Russia and China to undermine and destroy the future of western civilization.

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      17 days ago

      Aren’t we in favor of deporting 7% of our population? (25 million illegal immigrants/ 335 million)?

      Is population size really that important to you?

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      Who demonizes children?
      China also pulled back from their 1-child policy and as far as I remember Russia never had something like that in place.

      And I think we’re globally already over the brink of sustainable humans.
      How should we be able to support all the newborn humans, if human population grows even more. Isn’t that bad for said children, if they can’t have enough…anything anymore?

      This obviously needs global solutions, as many societies would feel, that others are just overwhelming them, when they are producing more offspring.

      But what does this even have to do with abortion rights?
      If you have a condom accident and can’t afford to have a child, is it better to have the child live through worse conditions, than when planned?
      What about rape or medical, where the mother could die?

      This perspective seems quite narrow, but maybe I didn’t quite get your point.

      Edit: autocorrect and some beers…

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        17 days ago

        Who demonizes children?

        People on the right aren’t very nice about trans kids. But that’s probably not their point.

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      Procreation only makes children - society needs culture and order to continue through the generations. Having people who have no idea about their history or traditions is useless, they might as well be cattle.

      Outside influences like rival countries or self financed teams paid for by billionaires to influence society is the problem. Forcing others to be parents won’t solve the problem. We need people who want to raise children so abuse and broken people aren’t a constant output. To make people want children, they need a future in which they feel they can raise a person. The current anti-worker, anti-business geo-economic plan for the next 4 years doesn’t give the kind of future folks want to have children.

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      Because a society can only survive through procreation.

      Immigration also works.

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          17 days ago

          Other places. I’m not into racial purity, if that’s your point, or some hopeless quest to prevent the world changing.

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            Okay, but where do the people from other places come from?

            You’re not thinking this all the way through.

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              Okay, but where do the people from other places come from?

              You’re not thinking this all the way through.

              I want to hear you say where. Please, in your own time.

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                  15 days ago

                  Okay, so what does that have to do with people getting vasectomies? If someone doesn’t want to have children, what does it matter to them if someone else chooses to, specifically if they’re not from the same country?

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                    Do you believe in your ideals? Do you want them to be passed on to another generation? If the answer to these questions is no, then I fully support your decision to remove yourselves from the gene pool.

                    And now we’ve circled back completely to the start of this comment chain. Feel free to read it again start to finish if you’re still confused.

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      Nah, children fucking suck. All of them. I was born and raised in the middle of the US and since I was young I knew I never wanted children. I wouldn’t be a good parent so it would be unfair to bring a human into this shitty world and then have them rely on me to raise them. It’s irresponsible and quite frankly unethical to have kids just because procreation is necessary for the human species to to grow. There are plenty of people that want them that the rest of us aren’t required for sustainability.

      The world could use a couple of billion less people anyway.