I feel like the statistical chances this is the only guy, even just in the USA itself with a 300 million plus population, capable and willing to do this would be insane. This was domino one, we’re just waiting on the who/what domino two is.

but it’s not a great triumph of the left wing. It’s a bare minimum.

You’re shifting goalposts. You said “Yeah. I respect the Republicans for actually getting shit done, as evil as their goals are.” and then claimed democrats don’t get anything done.

Also here are some things the Democrats did; and I say this as a Canadian:

• Signing the 19th Amendment into law (for non Americans, this gave women the ability to vote)

• Social Security

• Medicaid

• National Industrial Recovery Act (8 hour work day, min wage, right to collective bargaining, paid overtime)

• Unemployment Benefits

• Civil Rights Act

• Voting Rights Act

• Fair Labor Standards Act (this was the end of Child Labour)

• F.E.M.A.

• Literally creating the Departments of Education, and Energy

• Family and Medical Leave Act

• National Voter Registration Act

And those are just the larger ones I thought of offhand, I’m sure there are more. Yet I’m also pretty sure most americans would agree that things like women voting, social security, medicaid, workers rights, civil rights, voting rights, ending child labour, etc, are pretty important things that were passed into law.

I guess it’s true what they say, being good is something anyone can do, but being evil requires actually being smart and driven.

Which sociopath told you this? I’ve never heard that saying in my entire life.

The Obama administration got the ACA passed, I don’t know that I’d call that ‘not getting shit done.’

You also have to keep in mind that both the police and military are “outsiders” to capitalists. They are often poor, and can side with the public. Capitalists rely on total obedience of the military and police, if that breaks, they’re done.

The whole “seizing guns” thing is a red herring. One general strike and no amount of guns will matter, capitalists need constant, increasing wealth. To not just lower their money but stop incoming money is death to them. Imagine every port, airport, train station, service industry business, etc, all with no workers.

They can call all the cops and infantry they want, those same people will constantly be asked to kill friends and family. The ones willing to do so will decrease in number until the inevitable toppling of the governing body.

A (former) leader of Japan was killed with a makeshift weapon. Imagine CEOs trying to dine out when any person in the kitchen staff could poison them.

Absolutely, I just meant that the inhuman monster who was killed wasn’t bourgeoisie, he was an aristocrat. These are rich families that stay rich by exploiting the poor and (few remaining) bourgeoisie.

In end stage capitalism you’re oligarchy, poor, or soon to be one of the two.

“You guys have houses?” /Meme

Just a reminder but the bourgeoisie are the “middle class”, and that the CEO who was killed is part of a capitalist oligopoly.

The bourgeoisie haven’t been targeted here, an aristocrat has.

It takes a lot of people to make a missile, yet it only takes one to declare war. Who’s more at fault? If I steal a thousand elderly people’s retirement savings, and someone else steals my car, are we equally thieves? What if the son of a person who I stole from took it, does that change anything?

Well if I’m going to ‘get it,’ you have to actually explain it. You’re dancing around the issue and I can’t tell for sure if it’s because you never get to this point in the conversation, or if you legitimately don’t know. You’ve been told to not like something and you’re following through on that, but it’s clear you just can’t fit the parts together. Why would being a blood-parent allow you to send your ideals forward, yet being an adoptive parent, or an uncle, or just a member of the community wouldn’t allow it? Do you feel your parents chose who you are, and how you think, and that you’ll do the same for your kids?

If you’re stupid enough to fall for this asinine bullshit, we definitely don’t want you reproducing.

Fall for what? You haven’t committed to a single idea here, you’re all over the map.

I’m just not super interested in people so hellbent on ideological purity that they’ll ignore the most basic mechanics of the world we live in.

So why are you concerned about people getting vasectomies? Why does that mean they cannot also put their ideals out into the world?

You haven’t been in a real conversation about this, have you? I understand, we’re all in echo chambers of varying sizes. I noticed you also didn’t say ‘where’ which was my original question. I think you’re a little younger than I initially clocked you, so I’ll ask this carefully:

People move to your country; what does that have to do with having a vasectomy?

You’ve said passing on ideals, but you haven’t explained the connection. The more people around me the more people I can pass my ideals onto – why would more people decrease that ability, and why would getting a vasectomy stop it, either?

Do you believe in your ideals? Do you want them to be passed on to another generation? If the answer to these questions is no, then I fully support your decision to remove yourselves from the gene pool.

What if your answer is yes, and you want to pass on your ideals to the next generation. Why does having a vasectomy change that? Can someone not pass their ideas on to their adopted children, or their nieces and nephews? Did Martin Luther King Jr. only pass his ideals onto his children, or did he spread his message to the people of both the US and the world? What does people getting vasectomies and people moving to their country change their ability to have ideals and show them to the world? I didn’t teach my kids to be kind to others, or to treat people with respect, by telling them: I did it by showing them those actions, and others see those as well, and it spreads.

Again, how does a vasectomy change your ability to pass on ideals?

Okay, so what does that have to do with people getting vasectomies? If someone doesn’t want to have children, what does it matter to them if someone else chooses to, specifically if they’re not from the same country?

Okay, but where do the people from other places come from?

You’re not thinking this all the way through.

I want to hear you say where. Please, in your own time.

Hell, look at Germany that struggles with immigrants as far as I know.

The only struggles Germany has with immigrants at large is racist government officials using them as scapegoats.

Then you must be in quite a conundrum with who was killed here; if you want justice for the CEO by finding the killer of the CEO, you’re supporting a murderer; if you support the killer of the CEO, you’re supporting a killer.

Tough moral quandary.

It’s not hyperbole to say that this is exactly why the 2nd Amendment exists.

The Second Amendment was based partially on the right to keep and bear arms in English common law and was influenced by the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Sir William Blackstone described this right as an auxiliary right, supporting the natural rights of self-defense and resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state.[12] While both James Monroe and John Adams supported the Constitution being ratified, its most influential framer was James Madison. In Federalist No. 46, Madison wrote how a federal army could be kept in check by the militia, “a standing army … would be opposed [by] militia.” He argued that State governments “would be able to repel the danger” of a federal army, “It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops.” He contrasted the federal government of the United States to the European kingdoms, which he described as “afraid to trust the people with arms”, and assured that “the existence of subordinate governments … forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition”.

I’m willing to let him risk it.