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    Oh, this reminds me. I was asked to go to a Chiropractic “doctor” this weekend for a check up. That’s nonsense to begin with, but I went anyway.

    She asked about my back hurting, and I mentioned that I threw it out really badly when I got COVID a year or two ago, and was stuck in bed coughing super hard for a week. Her immediate response was “I’ve heard the vaccine can do that.”

    … Like, fucking what? How god damn stupid do you have to be to hear “I threw my back out coughing really hard.” and instantly try to insert your anti-science bullshit into the conversation?

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        Oh man it gets worse. Medicine is so fucked now.

        My (telehealth) doctor noted my testosterone is a little low and suggested I use another online practitioner for testosterone replacement therapy since they can’t do that from their practice.

        She gave me a few places to check out (from her companies list, she didn’t personally vet them).

        They all have some anti-science bullshit or “As seen on JRE/Infowars”.

        I’m like…yeah, I’m not doing any of that. I’ll try diet, exercise, and proper sleep first. I’m not giving any of them my money, patronage, or information.

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          I had the same thing except from an in-clinic consult about my general health.

          Testosterone supplementing was presented like “Well levels vary to each man but some do a little better with more so it could help your endurance and energy levels.”

          Ok sure, why not? They’re a doctor right? Trust experience? Trust science? All that?

          I got a shot 2 or 3 times but then quit it. I’m so freaking glad I did, after I discovered all these accounts about it causing heart problems, possibly reproductive issues, and all this other crap. It was difficult to find someone who was actually glad they did it.

          Happy with the hormone levels I’ve got, thank you very much.

          I felt so scammed, like I was just used as some “lead” for another clinic to profit from me over something that potentially would cause a ton of long-term harm.

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          When looking for a pediatrician for my kid, we shopped around because we don’t want an idiot treating them. One doctor’s nurse looked us straight in the eyes and said “We follow a strict vaccine schedule for children, will you have a problem with that?”.

          Yeah, we found our pediatrician that day.

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          Gross, definitely fuck them.

          It makes total sense from a cynical profit-first standpoint though. Where can I get the best bang for my buck reaching damaged young men who desire so much to be manly and alpha, but feel so inadequate inside they must do something about it? And they have to be conditioned to eat up bullshit they want to hear.

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            “I set this bottle of dasani by a bank for like three months so it would absorb the essence of currency. Don’t trust ‘big money’ out there with their ‘coke covered paper.’ This is organic! Water is natural!”

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        A chiropractor once gave my mom homeopathic pills. I was a kid and didn’t even know what homeopathy was at the time, but she gave me one and I said, “mom, this is sugar.” She tried to argue with me about it and I kept telling her I know what sugar tastes like.

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          Nicely done. The best case scenario is sugar. Most of the time, it’s nothing but water, and maybe a single drop of 100x already diluted more water, that maybe once had something non-water in it. That is, of course, assuming the machines doing the literal magic shaking didn’t spill the “active ingredient”.

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          I have a perio and ortho, and the perio also was my hygienist; but the hygienist noticed something odd with a tooth, concerned about it, said I should consult a general dentist - due to having seen a perio, ortho and hygienist regularly I let my general dentist lapse, found they had retired and I wasn’t on books any more, went to the nearest dentist, in-network, 4* reviews - he looked at it, said, “ah yeah, i see the issue. use this mouthwash and gel on it once daily”

          it was like $50

          I happily used it for a week before I was standing there swishing and actually read the label and saw “not endorsed by the FDA” and was like “whattttt” then saw it was homeopathic

          well you can imagine I spit that mouthwash straight out without swallowing

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            I don’t suppose you remember what the magical ingredients were in those products? Call it morbid curiosity.

            You know now that I think about it, I’m not sure how much of dental products are actually FDA approved. I think they might fit into a weird zone where they’re not technically medication or food so FDA doesn’t really look too closely. Dental machinery and appliances for sure need to be FDA-approved, but mouthwash and toothpaste I’m not so sure about. I’m fairly sure the active ingredients within mouthwash and toothpaste, such as fluoride, need to have FDA approval before they can be used, but I don’t think the toothpaste or mouthwash itself needs FDA approval. I think for the most part the FDA oversees marketing claims and manufacturing standards for toothpaste/mouthwash, whereas the American Dental Association (ADA) is the body that “approves” them.

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          No worries. The appointment was set for me by a local government agency. That’s about all I wanna say about it, though.

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        A shaman would be a step up because I don’t think shamans actively make anything worse.

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          You say they dont make anything actively worse, until you don’t pay attention to them for a split second and they all gather in one place, collectively and ritualisticaly unalive themselves to combine their souls to be reborn as a single entity, to then rise as a warlord to wage a brutal unification war on earth, announce themselves emperor and set out to conquer the galaxy only to be betrayed and killed by half his children wich leaves his empire and therefore humanity in shambles!!

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      I was a teenager and was having back issues. My mother sent me to a chiropractor, which I didn’t know was a bunch of bullshit back then. She took an X-ray of my spine (how is that legal?) and told me she’d fix the issue in my upper back. I told her the pain was in my lower back and she kept insisting that no, it was an upper back problem that I needed to be treated for.

      And that was when I realized it was all bullshit.

      Now I know that it was come up with by a guy who said he got the information from a ghost. Seriously.

      https://www.iflscience.com/the-first-chiropractor-claimed-the-treatment-was-inspired-by-a-ghost-67389

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        I honestly thought I might have to, but it took months to get the appointment, and I didn’t want to have to wait all over again and just hope I got a better location next time.

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      I don’t get why anyone would want to be a chiropractor.

      Nurse: 4 years of schooling, high salary (yes it should be higher), useful to everyone around you in medical situation, good benefit packages, respected, and you can do so much with that degree.

      Chiropractor: 6 years of schooling, salary is low, useless in a medical situation, terrible benefits, not respected, and the only thing you can do with that degree is what you “trained” for.

      Become a nurse instead!