• SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Yeah they’ve been doing that for years now. If you do what they say, you’ll lose. If you do what they do just faster than they do, you win a trip to the gallows!

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    A factory accident in Israel has shut production long enough to dent server chip shipments, while soaring memory prices are squeezing PC demand. The 28.6% drop erased about $140 billion in value and triggered a wave of downgrades. The stock is still up sharply for 2026, but has now given back about half its value since its June peak.

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      I love the idea that the deregulation installed by the slopper barons might also lead to their own uninstallation.

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    I always thought that Intel was what kept AMD in place being a cool producer of linux-friendly components, so I pretty much dread the day AMD gets to be free from the shackles of competition.

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      Sorry, but AMD stopped pretending to be giving any fucks about the little guy. Lisa has been visiting those Trump AI dinner events. AMD is all in on producing AI hardware first and consumer hardware second.

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      As an European I’m ashamed that we have 0 presence in this market

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        Not true. The Netherlands has ASML, sort of a monopoly on the manufacturing of semiconductor machines.

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        For x86? I mean, you’d have to suck intels dick for a license. Why not just get NXP to produce desktop ARM chips.

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          At least cheese and bread isn’t even on the same playing field in terms of evil.

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        I own Irish stock! JamesHardie. I used to have more exposure to a few other european companies but that was a few years ago and cant think of what they were off hand.

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        Pretty far off but China has some nice manufacturers…or they would if AI didn’t exist.

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          This is generally the problem with ISAs.

          ARM has had decades in the oven, x86 has had almost half a century, while RISC-V manufacturing and ISA development has been generally available only a couple of years.

          The fact is if there isn’t a big push by some major vendor - or some nation state, then chances are it’ll develop slower than the previously mentioned ISAs.

          From design, to testing, to prefab, to packaging, it’s all combined just a single step of the journey to improving yield and performance.

          ARM is unfortunately the current trajectory, with Qualcomm, Apple and now NVIDIA leading the charge - which doesn’t bode well, simply because you won’t know what the hell the firmware do.

          We could truly use some market disruption in this space and RISC-V, being an open ISA, would be the safest bet for digital sovereignty and user autonomy - but apparently those things are only important on paper.

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            Can we make our own RISC-V chips like using FPGAs or something? Or would that be infinitely less robust than anything purpose-built by industry?

            Chinese manufacturers seem to offer plenty of options for RISC-V MCUs and raspberrypi knockoffs, but they seem to be always sold out or they don’t ship to my country

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              The ESP32 series have already switched to RISC-V for most models and many other microcontrollers has too. There’s not a lot in the laptop/desktop territory but with enough incentives it’s gonna happen

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                Oh ya, the C3 and I think the C5. Not sure what the current versions are but if they’re in esp32’s then I guess that’s pretty main stream, just nowhere near a computer processor just yet.

                Are the RISC-V ESP32’s cheaper than that ARM ones?

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                Maybe if we all buy RISC-V microprocessors then somebody somewhere will see a little blip in market demand and have the genius idea of producing more full 64-bit RISC-V chips

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              FPGAs are going to be way more expensive. It’s possible, but the cost-to-performance ratio would be abysmal.

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                I see. They’re a little cheaper if you solder them yourself though. Of course soldering 128 leads is no small project and requires some precision. But it’s way cheaper than buying pre-soldered breakout boards.

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    It’s hilarious that a lot of leftist think it’s actual money that was lost. The value will go back up in a few days. It’s actually a good time to buy a lot of AI or tech stocks now because you’ll get a major discount.

    In fact, some mad lads probably made a killing shorting many of these stocks when financial reports hit investors and they panicked.

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      ?

      Also nobody is going to short Intel or any tech stocks at least until the AI bubble pops

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      It kind of is real money. A lot of these stocks are tied to peoples retirements. People do invest in these things because they are told to and its a good idea, which it is. I think trump started giving kids stocks as a way to prop up the ai economy even more.

      Like I get what you mean but it still is real money some where lol. You can be right on some fundamental but also come off as ignorant. To do what you suggest with shorts would mean I would have to get a lot more involved, and my incentives start getting mixed up. Instead of feeling joy when I see stocks to down I start to worry because now I have to use my brain and try to figure out if I bail now accept my loss, or try to use some “insider knowledge” I’ve gleamed from polymarket or whatever and start gambling my money against people who are rigging the money at a scale that I can’t even imagine. I would have to spend all day reading articles and listening to news and buying 10k courses from the PBD podcast, when private equity runs the stock market with ai and makes grand sweeping decisions that wipe you out in a instant.

      Over time my opinions are going to become warped because I don’t see the world as how it should be, and how it needs to be for me to keep making money as a leech. Suddenly I start viewing Palestinians as terrorist because I’m invested in a company that’s making automated turrets to clear way for the trump hotel in Gaza. The alternative is I get a real job and become a normal human being not tied into a death cult.

      Maybe i was going to short openai a year ago, and then all sudden they so something I would of never even imagined like buying out all the worlds stock of ram, and their stock goes up 500%. That’s gambling and they’re just using your own greed against you.

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      Intel stock is up over 200% over the last 2 years (even with this 29% drop) so it’s way too early to say it’s popped.

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        The fun thing about percentages though: you can have a 10,000% gain, but a 100% drop is an instant wipeout. So a 29% drop can still be more significant than what the value was two years ago.

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          I agree that Intel is overvalued. My point is that you need to zoom out to get a better picture. And a stock that’s up 200% over 2 years is doing really well. It’s funny because your point about percentages was reflected this morning, Intel has slid another 6% so now it’s only up 175% over the past 2 years.

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        Yeah it came right down to <$20 at one point. I bought a fair bit in 2025 when it first did, and sold most of it at $100. So you know, I’d not mind if it came back down again to repeat the exercise. Although when I got it 2 years ago, I thought “Not even Trump would let Intel fail” and to be fair, he did authorise a cash boost.

        I am not completely sure that would be true again. I’d probably still take the punt at $20 again though.

        This is a weird one though, because they’ve not even been the biggest name behind AI by anyone’s estimation. Why they took the biggest hit goes beyond AI I think.

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          According to this random website I found (at least it has sources) intel still makes 22% of it’s revenue from consumer hardware. So the ram companies making consumer hardware more expensive (or just droping it entirely like micron did) harms intel a lot more than it harms the ram companies.

          Edit: The 22% also includes computers sold to businesses but not data centres

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          I was in at 24-28 and sold at 58-62, definitely okay with a round 2 attempt if it gets back into the mid 20s.

          Randomly another stock ive played the yoyo with is Boeing - BA

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            Yeah, I mean ultimately if I knew the future I could have sold it all at $140 or so. But you don’t really ever know what is happening tomorrow. So ultimately, if you made some return, it’s always good.

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      Wait a couple more hours for the trading to open back up and watch what happens to the other tech stocks, they’re either gonna bounce or the floor is gonna fall out of under them.

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        They’re already up in OOH trading. Not a guarantee they will go back up when US trading opens proper. But, it’s usually a good indication.

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          What’s the saying, that the market can ignore reality longer than you can remain solvent, or something to that effect.

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            Well it’s certainly rarely based on any logic I can ascertain, that’s for sure.

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              It’s really just a gauge of how good the investors are feeling, a real market crash would involve way more than a sell off.

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      I just invested a lot of money and reallocated my entire portfolio, so probably.

      (Not in Intel, not in us stocks)