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Why do they censor ‘aubsive’?
Because two of the big platforms might cut off your traffic for using any of a long list of arbitrary words.
It’s pretty fucking disgusting to self censor inoffensive language because an app might stop showing your memes to other mouthbreathers.
Or disgusting that algorithms with arbitrary rules comtrol so much of what so many people see.
It’s pretty fucking disgusting to self censor inoffensive language
It’s disgusting to need to do it. I won’t blame poster/commenter for doing it so that their shit doesn’t get deleted.
They don’t need to do it, their post wont get deleted. It will only not get promoted by the platform, it can still be shared and viewed directly by users.
not only that, but by using munged language like that you’re effectively making peoples blocklists on trigger words utterly fucking useless.
**** ********* *** ********?
**** ******* ******** *******!
**** ******* ***.
Jeez, right in the *********? Brutal.
** shreds, *** ***?
Act*al psychology
On some platforms OCR reads it and filters.
Fuck th*se pl*tforms, th*n.
Because they’re annoying.
You mean anno*ing?
It’s a b*d word
I was looking for the notes on ab* for a while before I realized. It really seems weird
Probably tangentially related to June 4, 1989.
Well, at least people were saved from terrible tra*ma by cl*verly h*ding the “u” in “ab*sive”. Can’t tell that’s what it says at all…
Oh this word might hurt someone, lets skewer it so not only does it bring all the focus to the word itself, but forces people to think about the word specifically and how big of a deal it should be!
Whoever did this really needs a smack upside the head
Trigger warning: the word tra*ma
I like to think of myself as pretty supportive, but is there really any evidence that specifically reading the word “trauma” is traumatic? And if so, is the removal of the “U” really a solution to that?
Because it seems like asterixing one letter is more of a performative measure to signify ones support for the overall cause rather than an actually means to reduce suffering.
How close can the “U” be before it starts to upset someone?
“Tra u ma”
Uuuuuuuuuuuuu Tra ma Uuuuuuuuuuuuuu
I don’t believe that someone who is affected by the word “trauma” would view the above examples with a complete non-reaction because the U is vaguely obfuscated.
Like, we can agree that the asterix is just a display of consideration to someone, rather than an actually effective measure, right?
It’s actually counterproductive! People who want to screen stuff about abuse from their internet experience can set up filters. Those filters are broken when you censor the relevant words!
Yeah but does that matter if using the asterisk helps those not the victim of abuse feel better about their day? They are the real victims 🤣
If the word triggers some symptom, then why would that same word, “hidden” by a trick that wouldn’t faze a six-year-old, be any less harmful?
It wouldn’t. You may want to reread my comment.
::: spoiler
Trauma
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An alternative explanation is that sites like TikT*k are trying to please advertisers by reducing coverage of videos that talk about sensitive topics like trauma, suicide, and death, and that behaviour has been blindly copied by zoomers who are getting their primary internet exposure from Tiktok.
I see you don’t feel the need to double-censor “w”
Reading ab*sive is more traumatic
I d*n't kn*w wh*t y*u're t*lk*ng abo*t*** *** * ***** cunt *** ****!
I agree with the other three, but this is wrong about “narcissists”. “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” is a diagnosis, but calling someone a “narcissist” isn’t. That’s just a description of someone’s personality. It’s much older than the diagnosis, going back to the Greek myth of Narcissus. The diagnosis doesn’t get to co-opt the much older usage.
Yeah it’s just the higher stage of selfishness. You can be selfish, egoistic, etc. Then you reach Narcissus level, or worst, the pond/lake level.
Wow that’s exactly what a pond/laker would say
You’re not speaking ancient Greek, mate, you’re speaking English, and your use is informed by the history of the English language. The use of Nar******t in pop culture is largely informed by Christopher Lach’s 1979 book The Culture Of Narcissism, which made the argument that contemporary American culture was normalising clinical NPD. You didn’t learn to call people nar******ts by reading ancient Greek myths, and I know that for a fact because the ancient greeks didn’t go around using the word. To them, it was just some guy’s name. You learned the word from someone who learned the word from someone who learned the word from Lasch’s book, and from the ableist books that came after. Your folk etymology explanation that the pop culture use comes directly from Greek is missing a lot of important and relevant intermediate steps.
Brainiac!
LOL love this mic drop
According to my licensed psychiatrist, trauma is anything hurtful or harmful that impacts your behavior or patterns of thinking. The clinical term is actually more broad than the general public conception of the word.
even in medical terms (not a doctor) getting a tooth pulled or scraping your knee is trauma.
For all people posture that “the internet overreacts” they also overreact to the so-called overreaction
That’s physical trauma though.
- Take a learners dictionary and pair it with an advanced one.
- Pic some controversial words.
- Compare verbs against nouns, nouns against adjectives so the definitions aren’t actually the same but look like they should be.
- Completely make up the last “simple” definition so it seems like you are making some profound point that’s actually just a dumb comment.
- Call the side with the stupid comment you made up “pop psychology” so people can see in plain sight what gaslighting actually looks like.
Ab*sive
It’s the wojack/Chad meme of “your side is represented as crying wojack, my side is represented with chiseled Chad version, therefore I win”
And the “umm akshyully this is what gaslighting REALLY is” just makes me think someone made this whole thing just to try and prove to another person they aren’t a gaslighting narcissist who doesn’t believe someone has ptsd and has lasting issues stemming from it.
Besides, There doesn’t have to be some elaborate ongoing scheme for something to be gaslighting.
Is this coolguide gaslighting the definition of “gaslighting”?
There doesn’t have to be some elaborate ongoing scheme for something to be gaslighting.
100% agree.
Be honest with yourself, but don’t glorify victimhood. Being a victim fucking sucks. It’s not something to aspire to. I have my issues, but I know I’m not a victim.
I’ve been blessed not to have to deal with abuse the way others have. I don’t want to cheapen what they went through by classifying something unpleasant I went through in personal interactions as actual abuse or trauma.
It’s so difficult to try and have this nuanced take with people. I’m NOT trivializing or saying you should "just suck it up " I’m suggesting that you treat mental illness like an illness: Seek treatment, follow professional advice, and be honest with yourself and the professionals you’re seeing. If I broke my leg, but refused to get a cast because I felt it was really a problem with my arm, while lying to every doctor I meet about what happened, people would get very sick of my nonsense in short order.
Why does it censor “abusive?”
Yeah, if they’re gonna do that, they need to censor trigger and trauma too. Better throw in "flashbacks*, PTSD, and OCD just to be safe.
Abrasive*
Some SEO thing for avoid to be shadowed/banned on some platform which use OCR.
I wondered as well. Doesn’t make sense (to me).
Typing abusive is a trigger for them.
snowf**ks
I need to start calling people snowfucks.
To trigger
Someone answering above reminded me a couple of big online platforms will limit your traffic if your content contains certain words from an arbitrary list. So they probably self-censored to make sure the content would be seen.
Why the hell did you censor abuse?
Dear Americans: Psychotic doesn’t mean what you think it means. Stop using it please.
Yeah it does, you sound psychotic.
Stop gaslighting me you narcissist, or I’ll report you for ab*se!
You just triggered my trauma of when I was gaslighting my grill.
I’d’ve liked to see “schizophrenic,” “antisocial,” and “psychopath” among possible others, but this is indeed pretty cool.
I’dn’t’ve.
OK. Thanks for sharing. 🥰
You’shn’t’ve
Schizophrenic pop - hearing voices or seeing people and things that aren’t real. Makes you do crazy stuff sometimes.
Schizophrenic from my Psych101 lecture - a disorder that includes marked changes in behavior, mood, affect, and perception. Sufferers question reality, may feel persecuted, and experience sensory simulation that has no external cause. Genetic component coupled with trauma (stress-diathesis model), with an extremely high comorbidity of suicide attempts, depression, and self harm.
Antisocial pop - going against the grain, not wanting to hang out with people, being misanthropic. “Oh jeeze, i’m just so antisocial lately… maybe I’ll party some other time, guys.”
Antisocial personality disorder 101 - personlality disorder involving behavior that is typically not only interpersonally disruptive, but is often actively working against the benefit of others. Often accompanied by blunted capacity for empathy for others. Strong genetic component, may express after traumatic childhood experience or an abusive upbringing. Interestingly, has a high comorbidity for substance abuse and other potentially self-destructive behaviors. AKA sociopathy. Early.onset, typically pre-adolescence at latest for diagnosis. Otherwise, it’s considered something akin to adolescent outburst, where it’s expected to go away after some time. Early onset prognosis is worse.
Psychopathy pop - Cletus Cassidy, Michael Myers, Mrs. Voorhees, the Driller Killer, etc. See also “psycho”
Psychopathy 101 - similar to ASPD above, but not so much the self-destructive behaviors. Couples antisocial behaviors with complete lack of care or remorse for others, along with a superficial charm (refer back to Learning & Behavior, and social psych notes… charm is a skill!) to manipulate others into doing what they want. Often manifests as “conduct disorder” in kids, but diagnosis is difficult, as there is little objective criteria to go on. The very definition of Psychopathy is hard to nail down, given its broad symptom list, overlap with other diagnoses, and disagreement among professionals.
“Psycho” is often misused, as it actually refers to psychosis, which is a detachment from reality in which the sufferer can’t tell what is and isn’t real. Causes considerable distress and may lead to dangerous or self-injurious behaviors.
Thanks for taking the time!
On the pop front, I’ll just point add there was also a widespread misconception for a very long time (mostly in the past now I think, but still out there) that schizophrenia was the same as dissociative identity disorder.
wh* is thi* so ********?
Tangentially related, “Cultural Appropriation” was a an anthropological/historian term that meant defining and controlling another’s culture. A good example is the English making it illegal for Scots to wear kilts in the 1700s. It is not personally using a hairstyle associated with another group despite what the term sounds like. The people that use that meaning literally culturally appropriated the term from the original group, under the real meaning of the term. People trying to tell spanish speakers that they are “Latinx” is another example of the original meaning.
I can’t be the only one, so:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others.
Worth keeping in mind the reason NPD happens is when a child is abused and does not develop an inherent sense of their own self worth, one possible coping mechanism is to create a false ego, which by necessity is bigger than a healthy person’s ego so it can have resilience and redundancy. It’s brittle, fragile, so they build it bigger. If a pwNPD had a normal size ego, being delicate as it is it would shatter in an average day from all the normal ego damage that people naturally need to endure.
The narcissism of NPD isn’t a disorder. It’s more like a blood clot, a scab. If you tear a scab off, you’ll just make someone bleed again. It’s the same with NPD. Damage to the ego is what causes the actual damage to the person. That, and discrimination. The disorder is the state of the brain being injured and needing that barrier in place to be functional. We consider narcissism part of the disorder of NPD in the same way we consider a scab to be a part of a wound.
A lot of people say “stop being narcisstic! Get a smaller ego, and your disorder will go away!” That isn’t how mental disorders work. It’s dangerous advice that can and does get people seriously hurt. A person living with NPD who loses their grandiosity can suffer trauma, can self harm, can take action that results in loss of relationships and jobs, and can even attempt suicide.
That could be a reason, but I wouldn’t say that is the reason.
In the absence of scientific consensus, I trust my own lived experiences and those of other people with the disorder I know. Science is so behind on personality disorders. Modern psychologists have about the same amount of understanding of personality disorders that Isaac Newton had of chemistry. And Newton was an alchemist.
The only issue I have with this is people like Trump who actively harm others because they do not seek treatment for their disorder. I very much want people like them to suffer trauma over a loss of grandiosity. And I want it to happen in public and be excruciating.
Who told you Trump has NPD? If it was some rando joe schmoe, they’re not qualified to make that judgement because they’re not an expert. And if it was a qualified psychiatrist, they were breaking the APA’s rules. The APA forbids psychiatrists from diagnosing celebrities with mental disorders. It’s called the Goldwater rule. You can’t just do psychiatry at random people on the street, celebrity or no celebrity. You have to talk to a patient before you can diagnose them. And if a psychiatrist has spoken to Trump, then doctor patient confidentiality applies and revealing a diagnosis would be a massive breach of professional ethics.
This is even from the Wikipedia article on the Goldwater rule:
In 2016 and 2017, a number of psychiatrists and clinical psychologists faced criticism for violating the Goldwater rule, as they claimed that Donald Trump displayed “an assortment of personality problems, including grandiosity, a lack of empathy, and ‘malignant narcissism’”, and that he has a “dangerous mental illness”, despite having never examined him.
