I’m thinking about getting back to uni to get my Masters and later a PhD. The thing is, I’m out of academia for more than 20 years, and completely at loss. I don’t quite know where to begin. Any tips?
Look at the programs, check the pre-reqs, and apply.
My wife is defending her (terminal) Master’s thesis in two days, at the age of 58. It took five years and was a hard slog with a full-time job, but she managed.
I’d start budgeting my time, now. What do I have to give up, to make sure I have research time at the end of the day?
Budget money, as well. I would want to know how my day-to-day costs will change when I’m in school several hours a week.
Getting into the mindset of learning rather than doing will be a huge shift, so you could practice your study skills by researching the universities and their programs for an hour every day without interruption - make sure you can sit down and read for a full hour.
Once you pick a program, use social media to ask around. You might know someone who goes there, maybe they could introduce you to the faculty?
Talk to people in the field. Try to get hired in a lab to get current experience.
Take a few classes. Apply for programs.
Where are you based? US? If so, which state? Which field? Are you willing to travel far?
There are huge differences in costs (from free to insanely expensive) and quality (not necessarily correlated with costs). But if you want to do a PhD, it could be a good idea to search out a research environment right away and to use the Master’s as an opportunity to familiarize yourself with their work.
Edit: Oh, and be ready to change plans. Maybe it’s not so fun after all, and you redecide on the whole PhD thing. Or maybe you change your topic. That’s fine. Don’t force yourself to write a PhD you’re not interested in.
100% on the not forcing yourself on anything in a PhD. I was ABD and my heart wasn’t in it anymore. The whole thing was a disaster, committee was unreachable, department was no help, and by the time I was done, I hated myself for ever doing it. It was an exercise in completion. Absolutely be open to saying “this isn’t fun anymore.” There is zero problem with just getting a masters — in fact, I think you get the most value out of one because it’s a concentrated experience on what you want to do. There’s a stigma on “mastering out” but that’s crap. Know your limits and stop while you still love what you’re doing. I wish you the best in returning to school!
Most comments seem to be focused on the logistics of applying and financial concerns. Those are important, but before that I would strongly suggest you evaluate your reasons for doing the program and understand your commitment. For one, interviews and applications will want to know this anyway, and two, these reasons can be tested when things get difficult.
A few insights: school has changed in the last few decades. Things are more lean and there is more expected from students. A big divide if you consider a PhD program is whether it is a researched based (eg R1) or teaching school. A research based school is more competitive and honestly feels like a business sometimes. How many papers can you crank out? Can you devote extra time to helping research professors so that you get better opportunities?
There is a changing (and unclear) landscape of software. Sources libraries and PDF organizers can be helpful. Most the students I know are using some form of AI to read or write papers, and they make edits and such. There is ongoing debate on the ethics, but people are using it regardless. If the precedent becomes writing papers at the efficiency of using AI to structure the papers, the level of expectations again rises.
Also be sure to have a support system in place. Things can get overwhelming and frustrating, and leaning on people when needed will be important.
Start with really pondering your reasons for doing the program and see if a program would fit those needs. And it would be a great idea to reach out to current students at least a couple of different schools to get their input on how the program is. There is only so much you can gain from reading the website. If it is really what you want to do, start looking at the requirements and email the program director or assistant to see if you’re missing anything.
Call a school and ask them. They will have better information on this than a bunch of internet randos.
Go to the registrar
Can you define what you mean by “out of academia” for 20 years? Do you mean that you already have another graduate degree but want to return to a different field, or do you mean you completed undergraduate work only?
The former should give you an easier time.
I think they just opened up next year’s FAFSA. Start there. See if you can find some money!
I know someone who was doing that when I was a student. The guy got a scholarship from the unemployment system (basically was allowed to keep his unemployment benefit while attending university) got his master and became a teacher. So it was possible in the 00’s.
If you’re unemployed talk with your employment advisor.
If you take student loans, don’t do it.
They are cancer and a lot of “academia” is a grift for boomers to live large while taking advantage of people
So one thing I see people skipping is the requirements. Depending on what your undergrad is and what you want to go for for your masters you may have to take some “redmedial” classes as your degree skills may not transfer or be considered too old. This will extend the amount of time you need to complete your degree.
Also, what is the reason you want to go back for it? It is just the desire to have the degree or is there an end goal you have after it? It may not be cost effective in the long run.
