• floofloof@lemmy.ca
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    20 days ago

    Maybe now they can forget all the expensive chipmaking and get back to their core business of stock buybacks.

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      20 days ago

      That’s probably the real reason. He was going to invest all that money instead of doing more stock buybacks. What an idiot!

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      20 days ago

      This is the real lesson here and US taxpayer has to now pay for Intel CapEx.

      These parasites are able to make “business” decisions that impact all of us with zero accountability.

      Clown capitalism and no lessons learned.

      Disgusting parasites are enabled here IMHO

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        The sentiment was not bad. TSMC is a shining example of how fab subsidies can be a good idea, and Intel’s fabs going under is bad and basically irreplaceable. Like… I am still happy with my tax dollars taking the risk, and Intel was clearly trying to right the ship when CHIPS was conceived.

        But theres clearly rot in Intel. Thats a big difference I guess, as TSMC was built from the ground up (in a time where that was possible) while Intel is already weighed down with its sins.

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          20 days ago

          If we give them billions of dollars, then why are we not taking equity position?

          You do understand that shareholders were transferred 100billion dollars over last 20 years?

          Why is us taxpayers bailing out their position?

          Why Intel needs cash, why doesn’t intel issue shares and gut the shareholder?

          Eitherway, I am happy that you are satisfied with this transfer. I am not.

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            20 days ago

            Where do you get the 100 billion USD amount from?
            AFAIK Intel has received less than $10 billion.

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              20 days ago

              sharebuy back is cash transfer to shareholders.

              CHIPS act allocated about 34b to be transferred to the corporation.

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                    20 days ago

                    Do you understand what a share buyback is?

                    I absolutely do, the company buys it’s own stock.
                    So if the company has a 1000 dollars, and buy for a 1000 dollars shares, it changes nothing for the remaining stockholders.
                    And the one who sold his stock, just got market value, nothing more nothing less.
                    The company now has a 1000 dollars less, but there is also for a 1000 dollars less stock. So the inner value per remaining stock remains the same.

                    Originally when the stock was sold, the money went to the company, when the company buys it back, it’s much like paying back a debt. But apart from that, Intel hasn’t done any buybacks for more than 3 years.

                    https://ycharts.com/companies/INTC/stock_buyback

                    Maybe you misunderstood how it works?

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      20 days ago

      While we’re at it, let’s go back to 10nm chips too. That’s Intel’s bread and butter. Phones get bigger every year. Why not transistors too?