What’s worse is that millions of people actually find the idea of paying a dime for anyone else’s healthcare disgusting. And we don’t even get to have a super low tax rate. We just spend our tax money on murdering children across the globe instead of caring for our own. Millions of us see it and oppose it but our society is just sick enough with enough asshole republicans gaming the system in a way that keeps us from doing a fucking thing about it. I wish we were as civilized as nations like Germany.
More than once, I hear an ad on the radio about good Christians coming together to help pay each other’s medical bills and think to myself that is the very thing they hate so much.
But they get to choose whose medical bills get paid. They can make sure that only “good Christians deserving of Jesus’ mercy” are the ones getting assistance. Not some stranger in the urban ghettos with children born out of wedlock, etc.
These are the people that will make the distinction between “drug addict” and “person with substance use disorder” based on demographics like race, socioeconomic status, and religion.
I knew someone would say something like this. But it’s not the same. I’ve discussed this a million times. If you’re willing to admit Republicans are many, many times worse then maybe we can talk. If you’re going to erase the difference then it’s a no-go from me
Not the person you’re responding to, but enjoybeingtakenforaride. There’s always a Joe Lieberman, a Kyrsten Sinema, a Joe Manchin, or a senate parliamentarian (what?) to act as a foil, preventing any leftward movement at all and instead ratcheting right.
Neoliberals will sooner appease fascists than act as traitors to their class by doing anything left wing at all.
We are fucked either way it’s just a matter of damage control. A third party win simply won’t be tenable anytime soon. I really tire of this conversation. No one has ever convinced me there’s any chance a third party could even get over 10% of votes. It’s not remotely believable. Seriously are you guys on heavy drugs? I honestly cannot fathom believing that route could ever, ever work.
No, democracy itself doesn’t work. It’s a facade where the public thinks they have a choice when in reality there’s no choices and everything is back room deals that enrich corrupt politicians (nearly all of them) and industry. You just admitted it yourself saying how third parties are impossible. How do you not see how you’re a mark (like most of the American public) being fooled? Is it even a democracy when our candidates are chosen for us? the democrats havent run a primary that they didn’t try to ratfuck since 2004! in 2008 they tried and failed to ratfuck Obama and install Hillary, not that it mattered because the second he came into office he did a complete 180 and broke every promise he made to get himself elected.
Our country needs a second revolution and our government needs to be overthrown. Capitalism needs to be abolished.
Our brutal imperialism around the world led by both parties enthusiastically is not “damage control”. People starving and living in the streets while we have endless money for imperialist wars of choice is not damage control.
Just the other day in vermont where I live a homeless couple diedofexposure after our supermajorityliberal government threw them out of the hotel program because our liberal public is sick and tired of paying higher taxes. Meanwhile we have the highest homelessness rate and highest rate of vacant second/third/fourth/fifth homes for the rich globalist class that makes their money stealing our wages. People dying from capitalism enthusiastically supported by both parties is not damage control. Our supermajority state legislature of liberals is comprised almost entirely of rich property and business owners. An average person like myself can’t be a politician because it doesn’t pay a living wage so you need a second job, and a second job is not flexible enough to support being a politician for a few months a year. It’s classist as fuck by design.
Yeah, it’s BOTH PARTIES. liberals like to pretend they’re holier than you but scratch one (raise their property taxes) and the poorly hidden fascist inside them comes out. They’re ok with bombs being dropped on brown people abroad so long as it’s a gay black trans woman dropping them. They’re ok with their fellow Vermonters dying from exposure so long as their property taxes don’t go up.
What’s worse is that millions of people actually find the idea of paying a dime for anyone else’s healthcare disgusting. And we don’t even get to have a super low tax rate. We just spend our tax money on murdering children across the globe instead of caring for our own. Millions of us see it and oppose it but our society is just sick enough with enough asshole republicans gaming the system in a way that keeps us from doing a fucking thing about it. I wish we were as civilized as nations like Germany.
More than once, I hear an ad on the radio about good Christians coming together to help pay each other’s medical bills and think to myself that is the very thing they hate so much.
But they get to choose whose medical bills get paid. They can make sure that only “good Christians deserving of Jesus’ mercy” are the ones getting assistance. Not some stranger in the urban ghettos with children born out of wedlock, etc.
These are the people that will make the distinction between “drug addict” and “person with substance use disorder” based on demographics like race, socioeconomic status, and religion.
Uhhh no it’s not?
It’s literally a system where only Christians get benefits.
I’m also assuming one can be denied benefit if they were not a good enough Christian.
Some people consider the consent part of that arrangement to be key.
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Neoliberals are also in on it too, not just republicans. And that’s our system. It’s all fucked top to bottom.
I knew someone would say something like this. But it’s not the same. I’ve discussed this a million times. If you’re willing to admit Republicans are many, many times worse then maybe we can talk. If you’re going to erase the difference then it’s a no-go from me
If you are going to erase the damage and disgusting acts of neoliberals, then it is also a no go from me.
Enjoy your bOtH SiDeS
Not the person you’re responding to, but enjoy being taken for a ride. There’s always a Joe Lieberman, a Kyrsten Sinema, a Joe Manchin, or a senate parliamentarian (what?) to act as a foil, preventing any leftward movement at all and instead ratcheting right.
Neoliberals will sooner appease fascists than act as traitors to their class by doing anything left wing at all.
We are fucked either way it’s just a matter of damage control. A third party win simply won’t be tenable anytime soon. I really tire of this conversation. No one has ever convinced me there’s any chance a third party could even get over 10% of votes. It’s not remotely believable. Seriously are you guys on heavy drugs? I honestly cannot fathom believing that route could ever, ever work.
No, democracy itself doesn’t work. It’s a facade where the public thinks they have a choice when in reality there’s no choices and everything is back room deals that enrich corrupt politicians (nearly all of them) and industry. You just admitted it yourself saying how third parties are impossible. How do you not see how you’re a mark (like most of the American public) being fooled? Is it even a democracy when our candidates are chosen for us? the democrats havent run a primary that they didn’t try to ratfuck since 2004! in 2008 they tried and failed to ratfuck Obama and install Hillary, not that it mattered because the second he came into office he did a complete 180 and broke every promise he made to get himself elected.
Our country needs a second revolution and our government needs to be overthrown. Capitalism needs to be abolished.
Our brutal imperialism around the world led by both parties enthusiastically is not “damage control”. People starving and living in the streets while we have endless money for imperialist wars of choice is not damage control.
Just the other day in vermont where I live a homeless couple died of exposure after our supermajority liberal government threw them out of the hotel program because our liberal public is sick and tired of paying higher taxes. Meanwhile we have the highest homelessness rate and highest rate of vacant second/third/fourth/fifth homes for the rich globalist class that makes their money stealing our wages. People dying from capitalism enthusiastically supported by both parties is not damage control. Our supermajority state legislature of liberals is comprised almost entirely of rich property and business owners. An average person like myself can’t be a politician because it doesn’t pay a living wage so you need a second job, and a second job is not flexible enough to support being a politician for a few months a year. It’s classist as fuck by design.
Yeah, it’s BOTH PARTIES. liberals like to pretend they’re holier than you but scratch one (raise their property taxes) and the poorly hidden fascist inside them comes out. They’re ok with bombs being dropped on brown people abroad so long as it’s a gay black trans woman dropping them. They’re ok with their fellow Vermonters dying from exposure so long as their property taxes don’t go up.
Fucking tankie