All the content, none of the Spez? Or, is it better if Lemmy stays distinct?

  • Kresten@feddit.dk
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    2 years ago

    I think it could be great for some subs, that are very dependent on many users, because It’s the rare users that provide content. Subs like AITA or TIFU, where you can react and discuss inside the community, but get content from outside.

    Ideally tho, they would just become self sustainable

  • fubo@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    If you wanna write code to do this … I’d say skip the bot, write a gateway instead.

    Back in the early days of email, there were lots of different email systems, not just the SMTP Internet email we use today. There was UUCP email with “bang paths”, where your email address specified a list of servers that a message could be passed through to get to you. There were other networks like FidoNet and WWIVnet, that could send email to Internet email addresses through special “gateway” servers.

    A gateway receives messages using one protocol or service, and retransmits or makes them available on another protocol or service.

    For a little while in 1992, I had access to read Usenet posts only through a gateway that exported Usenet posts onto the Gopher system.

    A gateway between Reddit and Lemmy would appear to Reddit as a web browser, scraping posts and comments; while appearing to Lemmy as a Lemmy instance that users could subscribe to, making each subreddit it scrapes available as a Lemmy community.

    So a Lemmy user could subscribe to, say, !askreddit@reddittolemmy.com and see a fresh view of AskReddit. The server at reddittolemmy.com would not be a standard Lemmy server with users, but rather a custom gateway server that fetches data from Reddit and makes it available in the form of a Lemmy community.

    (If Reddit were not being an asshole, a gateway could be an API client. But Reddit is being an asshole, so a gateway should probably be written as a scraper that accesses Reddit as if it were a normal user using a desktop Web browser.)

  • ShoePaste@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    Nah. This is a fresh start. It’s been less than a week and theres already so much more content. It’ll grow soon enough. Especially with spez fucking around over there. We want og content here, not all the shit reposts that already plague reddit

  • toofarapart@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I think the community is much more important than just having more content. I would worry that by flooding Lemmy with Reddit’s content without the community to support that content could drown everyone out.

    • PotjiePig@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Yeah I agree. I think being able to tweak a personalised scraper as an opt in service per community could work. Some subs just won’t work for this, like askreddit and Eli5, but niche communities, news communities and information communities. I would be happy just seeing the top 2 or 3 posts of the day for some, and for world news for example, only the posts that pass a certain threshold of upvotes in a certain time or against the subs size, to make sure the real news pops up quick.

  • Targo@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I think there’s value to it. There’s a ton of really important and helpful documentation on there for all kinds of fields, in the past couple days I’ve noticed some references I’ve had for tech issues and guitar repair are no longer accessible, for example. There’s going to be a period where looking for help/answers online for certain issues is going to be a nightmare.

  • atlasraven31@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    If I wanted to lurk Reddit, I would just do that. Better to stay your separate thing. It is nice to sometimes get news about the other side of the fence.

  • Ivyymmy@lemmy.one
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    2 years ago

    It’d be a good idea to create an instance with different communities as someone said here for the kind of posts that people could contribute, no matter if reposts are made by people or by bots (in this case, posts need to be filtered by upvotes or upvotes ratio or manually selected), for example some posts I was referring to with my first comment were about some guides or wikis for certain apps, etc. Some important or interesting knowledge that won’t be here and that would make people like me forced to rely on Reddit.

    That’s why I said just get the content of those posts and just give credits to the OP without just copying a link to redirect people to Reddit.

    In fact, I wouldn’t want this to be filled with Reddit spam posts as most of them are useless.

  • Margot Robbie@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Nah. If you see something interesting just post the direct link to it instead of going through reddit. Lemmy is a content aggregator after all.

  • promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi
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    2 years ago

    Good question! I dont really know how I’d feel about this.

    On the one hand, for me to be ok with it it needs to be CLEAR that its a bot reposting reddit content, maybe even if its limited to specific communities for the sake of archiving.

    On the other, I do want lemmy to be distinct and I am curious to see where it will end up. I also feel like we shouldn’t be trying to emulate reddit exactly, as that would mean we also get the crappy parts as well. Also, that would be limiting. Who knows what lemmy can become? Why limit it to being reddit 2.0, you know?

  • trachemys@iusearchlinux.fyi
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    2 years ago

    I subscribed !technews@radiation.party, which uses a bot to repost from various places. But it was overwhelming to get every hackernews post added and I unsubscribed. Reposting everything from a big link aggregator is too much. But might be okay if just duplicating a smaller subreddit.

    Then there is the problem that Reddit will likely fight your efforts to scrape it without paying api fees.