Harvard University’s governing board rejected an effort from faculty Wednesday to allow a group of 13 students sanctioned due to their participation in pro-Palestine protests to receive their degre…
Mossad is just an extension of the American CIA. I think what you’re picking up is the larger project of imperialism and imperialist interests that govern both the US and Israel. Israel isn’t in charge of the USA, it’s the other way around, but only because the USA is the seat of international imperialism. I’m not denying those connections you’re making, i dont even deny that they make some sense, but I think you are missing the forest for the trees.
That’s not me down voting you BTW, I don’t use them
I don’t see how the U.S. in is charge of Israel. When our government churns out tax dollars and gives it to Israel for their military/intelligence, (free) healthcare for their citizens, firearms for their citizens, economic assistance etc… pretty much we’re Israel’s wage slaves. At gun point, income is taxed, then sent to another part of the world to give those people comfortable lives. More comfortable than the lives of the actual people who are giving them that comfortable life.
Like I said its the larger imperialist project. After WWI, Britain broke up the Ottoman empire and divided it up into all these different regions based on what worked for the British. Even back in 1918 they had already picked out that strip of land on the Mediterranean as strategically essential to keeping the whole middle east destabilized so that the abundant resources could be controlled by western interests. At this time, GB was still the heart of global imperialism, it was where capitalism was born and global finance was invented and perfected. it was the world’s colonial juggernaut, and now the feudal classes of Europe were in their death throes.
The imperialists knew they wanted to have control of this land but had the foresight that old school military occupational colonialism was too messy. Better to just buy out a layer of administrators to create a ruling class to rubber stamp western interests in the region. This is the way colonialism works now but back then it was still pretty new. There needed to be westerners in this strip of land to convert it into the headquarters of imperialism in the middle east. Enter the Zionist project, Jews who were looking for a national identity, who had basically internalized centuries of antisemitism, that there was nowhere in Europe for the Jews. The British linked up with the Zionists and started moving people into the region end masse.
But less than 30 years later, after WW2, Britain was a bombed out flaming pile of rubble and the USA was an ascendant super power. Russia had just suffered 20 million+ casualties and the invasion left little of the forced industrialization under Stalin that made it possible for Russia to turn the tide of the Nazi’s wave of mass destruction. The US on the other hand stayed out of the war until they realized that the USSR was actually starting to win, at which point the USA mobilized to the western front, and used the military effort and patriotic support to carry out their own super mass industrialization. The US was flush with capital, so the interests of imperialism shifted from Britain to the USA. And the project that had begun with the British changed hands. Well, not really since it was the same people working for the same interests, only the national character had changed.
See you’re saying that the Israelis own the USA because the USA sends tax dollars to Israel. I’m saying that both the USA and Israel (and GB, basically the whole world) are all owned by a capitalist imperialist ruling class. The Israelis benefit from our taxes, or at least the leaders of Israel benefit, but the capitalists benefit from a perpetually unstable middle east whose own domestic national ruling class keeps wages low and resources free for foreign investment and international markets.
Mossad is just an extension of the American CIA. I think what you’re picking up is the larger project of imperialism and imperialist interests that govern both the US and Israel. Israel isn’t in charge of the USA, it’s the other way around, but only because the USA is the seat of international imperialism. I’m not denying those connections you’re making, i dont even deny that they make some sense, but I think you are missing the forest for the trees.
That’s not me down voting you BTW, I don’t use them
I don’t see how the U.S. in is charge of Israel. When our government churns out tax dollars and gives it to Israel for their military/intelligence, (free) healthcare for their citizens, firearms for their citizens, economic assistance etc… pretty much we’re Israel’s wage slaves. At gun point, income is taxed, then sent to another part of the world to give those people comfortable lives. More comfortable than the lives of the actual people who are giving them that comfortable life.
Like I said its the larger imperialist project. After WWI, Britain broke up the Ottoman empire and divided it up into all these different regions based on what worked for the British. Even back in 1918 they had already picked out that strip of land on the Mediterranean as strategically essential to keeping the whole middle east destabilized so that the abundant resources could be controlled by western interests. At this time, GB was still the heart of global imperialism, it was where capitalism was born and global finance was invented and perfected. it was the world’s colonial juggernaut, and now the feudal classes of Europe were in their death throes.
The imperialists knew they wanted to have control of this land but had the foresight that old school military occupational colonialism was too messy. Better to just buy out a layer of administrators to create a ruling class to rubber stamp western interests in the region. This is the way colonialism works now but back then it was still pretty new. There needed to be westerners in this strip of land to convert it into the headquarters of imperialism in the middle east. Enter the Zionist project, Jews who were looking for a national identity, who had basically internalized centuries of antisemitism, that there was nowhere in Europe for the Jews. The British linked up with the Zionists and started moving people into the region end masse.
But less than 30 years later, after WW2, Britain was a bombed out flaming pile of rubble and the USA was an ascendant super power. Russia had just suffered 20 million+ casualties and the invasion left little of the forced industrialization under Stalin that made it possible for Russia to turn the tide of the Nazi’s wave of mass destruction. The US on the other hand stayed out of the war until they realized that the USSR was actually starting to win, at which point the USA mobilized to the western front, and used the military effort and patriotic support to carry out their own super mass industrialization. The US was flush with capital, so the interests of imperialism shifted from Britain to the USA. And the project that had begun with the British changed hands. Well, not really since it was the same people working for the same interests, only the national character had changed.
See you’re saying that the Israelis own the USA because the USA sends tax dollars to Israel. I’m saying that both the USA and Israel (and GB, basically the whole world) are all owned by a capitalist imperialist ruling class. The Israelis benefit from our taxes, or at least the leaders of Israel benefit, but the capitalists benefit from a perpetually unstable middle east whose own domestic national ruling class keeps wages low and resources free for foreign investment and international markets.