https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4433

Should i repost this to any other /c/'s meant for this kind of things ?

EDIT: In case anyone don’t understand what this is it is an issue raised by someone on lemmy git that when an account is deleted or banned it should also delete the data the data posted by the user. And one of the main dev nutomic is blowing it of like it won’t affect me and maltfield is remainding him that it is illegal under the EU law and it also affects lemmy and moreover it is not ethical or moral . And i thought that was what lemmy was built on privacy, ethics and morals now i am dissapointed.

EDIT : For everyone saying there is no way i am not really ap roggrammer or anything but couldn’t this work :

They could just roll it out on a new version and i think most instances won’t mod it to remove that maybe some oddball ones will but not most. I know saved copies will be there but who cares no one is saving my 1000 comments but that is not the case with this .

It is copy pasted from one of my replies.

EDIT: Also it is not my intention to point finger to lemmy devs and i can differentiate their political stance and their work my only intention was to see that if this post gained enough traction they will reply or fix the issue.

EDIT : Relevant comment from @NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de about what if other instance don’t delete your data.

So maybe those instances are breaking the law, but Lemmy by default should comply. You could say the exact same thing about any social media - scrapers can and do archive everything they can - but that doesn’t absolve the original platforms (e.g. Twitter) from having to follow the law.

EDIT : As just a person i can’t do anything about it but i am certain if everybody pitch in the lemmy devs will listen and even though everyone seems to hate lemmy devs political stance i can differentiate with politics and their work and i find @Dessalines@lemmy.ml to be very responsive so i am gonna mention him and see what he thinks about it instead of trashing lemmy devs on speculation (i don’t know nutomic’s id) even though i don’t agree wuth nutomic’s response in this case i don’t share the views of many people in the comments and don’t associate this post with them.

EDIT : I just want an option to purge my data when deleting an account that you can enable or disable.

EDIT:Ok i just woke up and am catching up with some of these replies and i wanna say i don’t share any of their views nor am i affliated with them i never wanted to trash on the dev and that is one of the main reason i posted this on casual conversation i didn’t think this would get this uncasual . All i wanted to so was draw attention to this problem so devs will act on it faster but since then i have learned lemmy politics does’nt work like that and as i am not the mod or anyththing i can’t do anything about some of the comments except make it clear i have no affliations with them. Just keep it casual people. I too want these changes but maybe geemtting on the nerve if devs isn’t the best way to achieve it.

Something @tyler@programming.dev chimed in .Your comments can be public, but your data is yours. That’s the whole point of GDPR. Think of an art gallery. The gallery does not own the art a lot of the time, they simply show it. The art is owned by the artist. If they want to take it down they can. The same thing applies here. Your data, you get to choose what happens to it in the eyes of the law.

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I accidently left this part out so uploading it.

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    Lemmy is decentralised. The idea that Lemmy should implement European GDPR law makes no sense. Should Lemmy also implement every censorship law of every country?

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      If a website hosts european users, it needs to comply with GDPR. There isn’t a middleground here, whether you like it or not. If you cannot comply, you need to refuse those users by law (just as a lot of american sites do).

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        Do you have any instances of EU going after companies without any presence in EU for not adhering to GDPR?

        Is the EU going to invade Iranian company because I complained I want to delete my data in their server? best they’ll do is block their website.

        Try using your GDPR rights on chinese websites like Aliexpress and Alibaba. I’ll wait.

        Any god damn law can be written in the books, doesn’t mean they apply universally outside of their jurisdiction.

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          Yes, I have plenty. Check every US local news site as a European, they tell you they can’t serve you. There is also a site that tracks the fines. Some of the more interesting ones that I browsed through, were the UK ministry of defense.

          Funny you say aliexpress, because aliexpress actually complies with GDPR. They have cookie notices and everything.

          You can be angry all you want. The reality is, if you host EU data, then you are beholden to GDPR. It isn’t some toothless law that you can just ignore. If someone reported lemmy.world or a similar instance, it would get hit by a fine.

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      10 months ago

      GDPR isn’t about where the site is hosted, but whether it caters to EU citizens or not. So, if a lemmy instance allows EU citizens to register and/or visit, GDPR applies to them.

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      If you consider Europe like any other country, then no matter. But what would happen if US law were to target lemmy? What if EU was to censor lemmy and forbid any company to use it?

      If you want lemmy to be yet another forgotten free software project you can continue line this.