Honestly, my partner and I are actively looking into golden visa programs. We are like a United Colors of Benetton ad of sexual, ethnic, and racial minorities, and the worse things are getting in the US, the more attractive emigration becomes.
That said, I would not even entertain the idea of moving to Australia. Maybe it’s just an outsider’s perception, but they don’t look like they’re heading in a particularly good direction either.
Honestly I’d say Australia’s in the best spot it’s been in 20 years. Our right wing is so utterly destroyed that I can’t see them winning the next 2 elections still (and boomers are dying off so who knows if they’ll even survive long term). Sure the current party are centre-right wing, but they’re not as far right as the Dems are.
It feels like we got our weird right wing phase out of the way before the rest of the world had even started, Europe’s looking at Nazis in government and the US has Trump. Immigration fear-mongering was done back in the 2000s and no one really gives a shit about that topic any more because all the doom and gloom never came. They tried copying the seppo anti-woke stuff and it just didn’t hit with the intended audience here either.
But yeah I honestly wouldn’t want rich Americans coming over, kinda seen what you lot have done to your own country.
I agree that Australia is not headed in the right direction. The past 5 years, atleast, will show that.
I find the idea of golden visas absolutely deploreable. Worldwide there are already those of the upper echelon migrating their businesses, and personal lives, to certain locations for safe haven when it’s common knowledge that these folks continue to do more harm to the populace while reaping the personal benefits. Could the proper use of these visas be advantageous, yes. Would they be manipulated from day 1, yes.
Yeah, I recognize that it’s a deplorable thing and I am very much in favor of allowing for far more open immigration.
I also know that there’s an old Jewish joke about Germany and Russia about the difference between an optimist and a pessimist. The pessimists lived.
If that means spending $600k on a house in Portugal in order to get a resident visa, I’m going to do that if I need to in order to protect myself and my loved ones. I worry that people don’t realize how quickly things can get bad, or how bad they can get, and the answer isn’t “buy a gun.” I’ve been shot at and I didn’t like it. I’d rather move to someplace on the Mediterranean and drink cocktails. I will never stop working for civil rights, including the rights of migration, but if this is the only way to GTFO, I’m going to do it if I need to.
I get the bit about people parking money overseas using these programs, but humanitarian immigration is being eroded year after year. We need to fix that, but until we can, I need to make sure I’m considering all of my options.
To quote a friend of mine who traveled to Australia recently, “I wouldn’t say Australia is the most racist country, but they are definitely the country that is the most comfortable with their racism.”
Yeah Australia kinda feels like it’s a similar shit show done weirder. Like we’re evil and incompetent but Australia is that and also lost a prime minister. At least when a president suddenly stops being president they tend to have failed to join the shockingly large ranks of presidents to survive being shot in office.
And for non Americans that’s not a joke, seriously off the top of my head three died of gunshot in office (Lincoln, McKinley, and Kennedy) and at least 3 have survived an in office gunshot (Jackson, Roosevelt 1, Reagan) and I’m sure I missed some. And no we won’t be restricting guns for some reason.
Honestly, my partner and I are actively looking into golden visa programs. We are like a United Colors of Benetton ad of sexual, ethnic, and racial minorities, and the worse things are getting in the US, the more attractive emigration becomes.
That said, I would not even entertain the idea of moving to Australia. Maybe it’s just an outsider’s perception, but they don’t look like they’re heading in a particularly good direction either.
Honestly I’d say Australia’s in the best spot it’s been in 20 years. Our right wing is so utterly destroyed that I can’t see them winning the next 2 elections still (and boomers are dying off so who knows if they’ll even survive long term). Sure the current party are centre-right wing, but they’re not as far right as the Dems are.
It feels like we got our weird right wing phase out of the way before the rest of the world had even started, Europe’s looking at Nazis in government and the US has Trump. Immigration fear-mongering was done back in the 2000s and no one really gives a shit about that topic any more because all the doom and gloom never came. They tried copying the seppo anti-woke stuff and it just didn’t hit with the intended audience here either.
But yeah I honestly wouldn’t want rich Americans coming over, kinda seen what you lot have done to your own country.
I agree that Australia is not headed in the right direction. The past 5 years, atleast, will show that.
I find the idea of golden visas absolutely deploreable. Worldwide there are already those of the upper echelon migrating their businesses, and personal lives, to certain locations for safe haven when it’s common knowledge that these folks continue to do more harm to the populace while reaping the personal benefits. Could the proper use of these visas be advantageous, yes. Would they be manipulated from day 1, yes.
Yeah, I recognize that it’s a deplorable thing and I am very much in favor of allowing for far more open immigration.
I also know that there’s an old Jewish joke about Germany and Russia about the difference between an optimist and a pessimist. The pessimists lived.
If that means spending $600k on a house in Portugal in order to get a resident visa, I’m going to do that if I need to in order to protect myself and my loved ones. I worry that people don’t realize how quickly things can get bad, or how bad they can get, and the answer isn’t “buy a gun.” I’ve been shot at and I didn’t like it. I’d rather move to someplace on the Mediterranean and drink cocktails. I will never stop working for civil rights, including the rights of migration, but if this is the only way to GTFO, I’m going to do it if I need to.
I get the bit about people parking money overseas using these programs, but humanitarian immigration is being eroded year after year. We need to fix that, but until we can, I need to make sure I’m considering all of my options.
To quote a friend of mine who traveled to Australia recently, “I wouldn’t say Australia is the most racist country, but they are definitely the country that is the most comfortable with their racism.”
Yeah Australia kinda feels like it’s a similar shit show done weirder. Like we’re evil and incompetent but Australia is that and also lost a prime minister. At least when a president suddenly stops being president they tend to have failed to join the shockingly large ranks of presidents to survive being shot in office.
And for non Americans that’s not a joke, seriously off the top of my head three died of gunshot in office (Lincoln, McKinley, and Kennedy) and at least 3 have survived an in office gunshot (Jackson, Roosevelt 1, Reagan) and I’m sure I missed some. And no we won’t be restricting guns for some reason.