• ElRompeCulo@lemmy.world
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    Me too. The “America bad” thing got old on Reddit. I Hope it doesn’t take off here too.

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      1 year ago

      If you don’t want to hear about America being bad, don’t go to the same places as people who live in reality.

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        1 year ago

        I don’t deny the problems with this country. I vote to try and make this country better. Seeing the same posts about how horrible this country is gets old after a while. A majority of Reddit and this site would agree with the flaws of the US. The people who really need to hear this stuff aren’t on here.

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          Pointing out flaws in the country shouldn’t be seen as a personal attack or critique. Many of the victims of America are it’s citizens (e.g., the incarcerated).

          Nationalism just twists the government into our personal identity to manipulate us. Making fun of the government/system is healthy.

          This isn’t “Americans dumb” content, which attacks the actual citizens and understandably may weigh on someone.

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            I’m extremely happy to see a real conversation happening. This is actually worth reading, and not just another idiotic shouting match.

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            There’s a difference between “America has serious problems,let’s get to work fixing them” and “America is inherently evil and can’t be saved (and you’re an idiot at best, a right-wing plant at worst for thinking otherwise)”. The former fires people up to start making progess, the latter shuts people down or causes them to tune out of politics altogether.

            And to be blunt, this particular meme feels like it’s falling more in the second category than the first, at least to me.

        • Yendor@reddthat.com
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          The thing is, America (many Americans anyway) are continually screaming at everyone online about how America is the best country in the world and everywhere else is a shithole - despite very few measures supporting that.

          If you insist on telling everyone you’re the best, when you have so many serious flaws, people are going to mock you for it.

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          You mean you vote to feel better about yourself, to try to sweep any guilt or bad feeling under the rug, and you feel upset when you get reminded electoral politics means jackshit in the US (and in most liberal plutocraties)

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          I take it as “America has good ideals that it should live up to.”

          Might be pollyanna-ing… almost certainly am, but I’m trying to take this Independence Day to appreciate what we’ve got, what my ancestors came to this country for, and that the maintenance of it, and the realization of its ideals, is a lot of work we’ve got to do yet, and will always be with us.

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        You mean don’t go to places where children spew nonsense their loser parents tell them because they also made the choice to be degenerate fucking bums their entire lives?

        Then when they’re middle age and still have nothing to show for it they attempt to influence the entire system to change despite not even being able to improve their own position in life?

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          Tell us more about how 60% of the population lives paycheck to paycheck because they’re just lazy, and not because they were born to the wrong parents in a shitty system that only rewards worthless cunts who succeed by stepping on the throats of the people who do all the work.

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            Wait do you think people that do the work never receive the benefit and become wealthy?

            Are you completely unfamiliar with how most millionaires are made?

            Or are you just a useless communists that think capitalism is bad and this conversation just ends here.

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      1 year ago

      Hi. As a not American, I can say Americans get made fun of a lot by not Americans. We like to share these jokes with each other online, as not Americans also use the internet.

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      See most places are bad but America should be better. It presents itself as the better. It does not always live up to that better and so those people who want us to be better keep reminding us we have a lot of work to do. I can tell you personally how horrible America can be but I don’t think you want to hear that from a Lakota.

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      I hate to break it to you but most of the fediverse skews even more left than Reddit did.