It’s great that you want to throw in with defense of our country. You do understand that any USA person who does that would have to check their head for attitudes right? And there would be a high trust bar to vault.
Regarding self-reported individualism: maybe? Definition and study quality matters. The experience of difference is markedly clear, especially to those of us with family on both sides of the border.
And also, ideology is like halitosis, it’s always someone else’s problem, eh?
Responsibility for society starts at young adulthood, which is a fuzzy line because it varies per person. Bizarre that you would try to dissociate being a member of a culture and society without acknowledging participation and maintenance and responsibility… but very “American.” It capitulates to authority.
I keep seeing a response to words like “welcoming” as though it is a binary, for instance. Are you writing as though there’s welcome and deny, and that’s it? Fox News does this sleight of mind, for instance, reducing things to absolutes. It’s how single issue voters are created. Question it.
I once documented a youth conference of diasporic Black students from Windsor, Detroit, and Toronto. As director and editor I had to pay attention closely to the discussion. Some amazing things became clear: fundamental differences in identity and worldview. In particular, the Canadian youth got where the USA youth were coming from, but not the reverse, at least during the discussions.
It was more than about identity, it was about nuance and complexity. Something just made it really hard for the Detroit folks to think in terms more than black white latino asian and a few others, as well as simplifying broader topics. Looking for easy conclusions. The Toronto folk counted over 100 languages spoken at their school and thought in terms of ethiopian, africanadian, igbo, jamaican, trini, etc. The Windsor folk were like, “yeah that and we’re distinct yet linked, our local history explains a lot, and we have to work together across divisions.” Social complexity is pretty natural in canadian discourse.
This, this is one of the difficult things to explain across the border. It’s one of the key things we are worried most about losing in an annexation. And like most colonial relationships, the understanding generally goes one way.
You do understand that any USA person who does that would have to check their head for attitudes right?
Attitude as in instability or propensity to commit war crimes against MAGA people? I might fail that check admittedly.
Responsibility for society starts at young adulthood, which is a fuzzy line because it varies per person. Bizarre that you would try to dissociate being a member of a culture and society without acknowledging participation and maintenance and responsibility…
I’m not “trying to dissociate” anything of the sort. I’ve thought and read and debated about about the nature of human existence for an abnormally long time and what I’ve told you is simply a major piece of my current conclusions.
If anything I’m ravenously seeking out someone to convince me my ideas are wrong. Partly because when someone does that it to me it means my beliefs become just that much more refined and accurate. Not enough people are willing to challenge their own beliefs or actively engage in defending them. They attach their ideology to their very identity and react emotionally to counters to their beliefs. I don’t do that or respect that. My loyalty is to reality, not my sense of belonging or identity.
Another reason is a lot of my own beliefs about life and existence (and for instance the current political realities of the country I live in) are quite unpleasant and many of them I’d like to be rid of if I could find some counters convincing enough to break from them I’d honestly be relieved.
If anything my lack of dissociation is making me cripplingly depressed and angry and probably part of why I’m on track for a high blood pressure diagnosis.
but very “American.” It capitulates to authority.
I can assure you that my specific beliefs are not the norm for Americans. Most Americans do not have any desire to think deeply about their own ideology at all, and even those that talk of ideology often just embrace some well developed “counter cultural” identity and call it their ideology without much further analysis.
It’s great that you want to throw in with defense of our country. You do understand that any USA person who does that would have to check their head for attitudes right? And there would be a high trust bar to vault.
Regarding self-reported individualism: maybe? Definition and study quality matters. The experience of difference is markedly clear, especially to those of us with family on both sides of the border.
And also, ideology is like halitosis, it’s always someone else’s problem, eh?
Responsibility for society starts at young adulthood, which is a fuzzy line because it varies per person. Bizarre that you would try to dissociate being a member of a culture and society without acknowledging participation and maintenance and responsibility… but very “American.” It capitulates to authority.
I keep seeing a response to words like “welcoming” as though it is a binary, for instance. Are you writing as though there’s welcome and deny, and that’s it? Fox News does this sleight of mind, for instance, reducing things to absolutes. It’s how single issue voters are created. Question it.
I once documented a youth conference of diasporic Black students from Windsor, Detroit, and Toronto. As director and editor I had to pay attention closely to the discussion. Some amazing things became clear: fundamental differences in identity and worldview. In particular, the Canadian youth got where the USA youth were coming from, but not the reverse, at least during the discussions.
It was more than about identity, it was about nuance and complexity. Something just made it really hard for the Detroit folks to think in terms more than black white latino asian and a few others, as well as simplifying broader topics. Looking for easy conclusions. The Toronto folk counted over 100 languages spoken at their school and thought in terms of ethiopian, africanadian, igbo, jamaican, trini, etc. The Windsor folk were like, “yeah that and we’re distinct yet linked, our local history explains a lot, and we have to work together across divisions.” Social complexity is pretty natural in canadian discourse.
This, this is one of the difficult things to explain across the border. It’s one of the key things we are worried most about losing in an annexation. And like most colonial relationships, the understanding generally goes one way.
Attitude as in instability or propensity to commit war crimes against MAGA people? I might fail that check admittedly.
I’m not “trying to dissociate” anything of the sort. I’ve thought and read and debated about about the nature of human existence for an abnormally long time and what I’ve told you is simply a major piece of my current conclusions.
If anything I’m ravenously seeking out someone to convince me my ideas are wrong. Partly because when someone does that it to me it means my beliefs become just that much more refined and accurate. Not enough people are willing to challenge their own beliefs or actively engage in defending them. They attach their ideology to their very identity and react emotionally to counters to their beliefs. I don’t do that or respect that. My loyalty is to reality, not my sense of belonging or identity.
Another reason is a lot of my own beliefs about life and existence (and for instance the current political realities of the country I live in) are quite unpleasant and many of them I’d like to be rid of if I could find some counters convincing enough to break from them I’d honestly be relieved.
If anything my lack of dissociation is making me cripplingly depressed and angry and probably part of why I’m on track for a high blood pressure diagnosis.
I can assure you that my specific beliefs are not the norm for Americans. Most Americans do not have any desire to think deeply about their own ideology at all, and even those that talk of ideology often just embrace some well developed “counter cultural” identity and call it their ideology without much further analysis.