• superkret@feddit.org
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    No, they are the world legislative body.
    Of course no country can be forced to follow the UN’s laws, but they are what we call “international law”.
    If the UN don’t recognize you, you may be the only government in your country, and you may even be the legitimate one, nationally speaking.
    But you won’t be internationally recognized as legally in charge of things like shipping lanes.

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      5 days ago

      So that means that for a country to be legitimate, it has to be accepted by every member of the security council? You’re not a legitimate country unless Russia, China, and the US all like you enough? That’s BS.

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        That is how professors of International law usually define a legitime country, yes: by vote in the general assembly (not the security council). Like for example Palestine, which has been recognized for decades by the General Assembly.

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          5 days ago

          You’re talking about the UN, where members of the security council have veto power.

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            I’m talking about the UN.
            You’re talking about the UN Security Council, which is just one of many UN organs, has the very limited purpose of preventing a war between the original nuclear powers, and yes, where the permanent members have veto powers.
            They do not have veto powers in the general assembly, which is a much more important UN organ when it comes to international diplomacy.

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                If adopted, the draft would have had the 15-member Council recommend to the 193-member General Assembly that “the State of Palestine be admitted to membership in the United Nations”.

                The General Assembly with no veto powers is the deciding body.
                They could act without a recommendation, as well.

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                  An application for admission to UN membership must be approved by the Council before being forwarded to the Assembly, where the matter requires at least two-thirds support to pass.

                  You are just factually wrong about this.

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                    4 days ago

                    Oh fuck. I was pretty sure about this, but never actually read the statutes.
                    Thanks for educating me, and refraining from the insults I deserve.
                    So I guess 5 nations do decide who gets into the Good Guy club. I admit I’m a bit disillusioned about this.