Summary

Churches across the U.S. are grappling with dwindling attendance and financial instability, forcing many to close or sell properties.

The Diocese of Buffalo has shut down 100 parishes since the 2000s and plans to close 70 more. Nationwide, church membership has dropped from 80% in the 1940s to 45% today.

Some churches repurpose their land to survive, like Atlanta’s First United Methodist Church, which is building affordable housing.

Others, like Calcium Church in New York, make cutbacks to stay open. Leaders warn of the long-term risks of declining community and support for churches.

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    The library isn’t community, you can’t even talk to people there. It’s a quiet place by its very nature.

    And squatting? That’s better, but it’s ephemeral. You can’t get attached to your squat, the cops can come at any moment and then everyone has to bail and find a new squat. That’s not good enough.

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      The library isn’t community, you can’t even talk to people there. It’s a quiet place by its very nature.

      You do know that the vast majority of libraries have events going on every week? From dozens of book clubs through movie clubs. Heck, my local library had a troupe of mongolian gymnasts come through that was ridiculously fun.

      Libraries are way more a public forum than churches ever will be. Go to any bible belt church in the south wearing a rainbow and you likely won’t even be let in through the front door. Or walking in with the wrong color skin.

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        You do know that the vast majority of libraries have events going on every week?

        No. I have no idea what you’re talking about. Maybe if you’re in a city? My local rural library does jack shit, it just has a few shelves and a computer lab. That’s not community, not the way the local rural church is with soup kitchens and holiday events.

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          It sounds like your library is underfunded, but you should check with them anyway because they probably are doing things, you just don’t hear about them for various reasons. Local governments love to cut library funds and then use the lack of use to cut it further, and making it hard to know what events your library does is part of that.

          My local library suffers from the same issue, but we at least have a community center the town built with meeting rooms and a gym that you can use for events. The closest city just renovated one of their libraries to include a second floor with meeting rooms and a cafe. I think another one had kitchen space added to it.

          Churches are really just community space that got a pass from conservatives and capitalists in the rush to commidify every part of the human experience.

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            Every library is underfunded, and yes, that’s because the right hates communal spaces. We don’t have a community center, there’s like, 1200 people spread out over a 15 mile strip of seven different villages. There’s the church, and nothing else.

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          Skill issue. The local library in my home town does a readalong every weekend and a bunk fund every month.

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      Churches aren’t community centres and they are highly exclusionary. Libraries are vastly undersold to the public but they do still offer TONNES of services and hold all kinds of community events. I’ve personally seen them as part community centre, part summer camp, or part theatre, among other things. They offer programs to help the homeless, they let you use the internet for free, and they are places of learning that aren’t spewing nonsense. They do so much for the community and they don’t even require you to do or believe anything in return.

      Churches only have as much of a community as anything else that gathers weekly. My weekly social dances have the same thing, someone else might have a big game night at a board/cardgame shop, and others may go to the pub. One place near me has a giant folk music jam you can just roll up to to play or watch. Churches aren’t only not the only place to go for community but they’re also not even that good at it.

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        Churches aren’t good enough, but the are certainly community centers.

        My weekly social dances have the same thing, someone else might have a big game night at a board/cardgame shop, and others may go to the pub.

        We don’t have any of that shit, and a pub is not a communal space. You have to pay for it.

        We have a church. A shrinking church that will die when all the boomers die. That’s it.

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          Ok, so it sounds like the church is a bad community investment but if the building is repurposed into a community centre run by the municipality then that’s the best option, no? It can even hold religious services for multiple religions now that it’s just a building.

          Also you could totally have dances in a church! The social dances where I’m from are held in the basement of a church on Fridays. Before it moved to a community centre the organization where I live now held them in a church that had been converted like I mentioned above.

          Your issue is a lack of imagination, not a lack of church.

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      you misunderstand it’s the corporate landlords squatting on the prime real estate they snapped up from the church so their competition can’t move into town. I’m sure they’ll attempt to murder anyone trying to survive on their vacant land.