• Apollo@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Some people aren’t mental and don’t wish to inflict pointless harm on others.

    If its wrong to harm people, its wrong to harm those who harm people too.

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      Youre gonna get downvoted for not validating the 2 minutes’ hate. There are an awful lot of people who are very excited to find someone they can get away with doing violence against.

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          This might surprise you mate but it’s not normal to fantasise about inflicting bodily harm to criminals.

          Might want to talk to someone about that.

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      That’s like saying we should be tolerant of republican’s fascism. Some things shouldn’t be allowed even if you sorta need to act like them towards them to get it to stop.

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        No its nothing like that. Shes been given 14 life sentences, how is that tolerating anything??

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      Isn’t exactly pointless when someone’s committed a crime against humanity – and murdering those newborns is absolutely a crime against humanity.

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        Stopping her from hurting anyone else is the point. Torturing her just because you can get away with it is pointless.

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      Some people aren’t mental and don’t wish to inflict pointless harm on others.

      Those are the ones upvoting him.

      If its wrong to harm people, its wrong to harm those who harm people too.

      Alright, let me explain it to you as if you were a five year old:

      No one thinks murdering babies is wrong because harming anyone is wrong.

      They think it’s wrong because they’re babies.

      It’s a specific case.

      If harming others was always wrong, it would be impossible for her to be arrested and imprisoned.

      Actually, the nurse wasn’t even using violence to kill the babies so trying to use nonviolence to shame others for wanting that vile bitch of a murderer beaten in prison doesn’t track either.

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        Justify it however you want, these are not the sort of things we should be decided based on emotion.

        “This crime really triggered me so we should influct great harm on the perpetrator” is pretty fucked up man.

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          The fact that you think that’s the reason why I and many others (I am very clearly not alone in my thinking) believe what we do tells us all we need to know about you. You never even asked me the reason why I believe the way I do, you just constructed a stereotype of me and people like me you built in your head based off dumb things others told you and it’s completely warping your judgement. Learn some empathy.

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        That’s not how this works yo. The monster is in prison, she will stay in prison till she’s dead. No more need for extrajudicial punishments. No need to torture or to murder her.

        There is nothing gained from hurting her further except a bunch of unwashed brainlets get hateboners; further it opens a whole can of worms of extrajudicial, punitive violence.

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        1 year ago

        I swear you guys heard someone say that once and now think you can use it to justify any unrelated bullshit.

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        Not at all lol

        Inflicting pain on someone is not stopping them from harming others.

        Making premeditated violence illegal but then punishing it with violence is retarded.

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      Have you heard of the paradox of tolerance

      This isn’t to say that I’m arguing for torture as retribution, but this almost comes across as you arguing against actions having consequences, which is a wholly different argument, and I understand you probably don’t actually support that, but I’m just going off what’s written. I’m actually kind of with you in terms of the torture thing, like I’d probably just put her in solitary and leave it at that. But yeah, as with tolerance, a peaceful society has to have ways to deal with violence, lest it become a violent society.

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        This has nothing to do with the paradox of tolerance. Not even slightly for one she’s been arrested, charged and given 14 life sentences and is going to spend her entire life in prison. So she has faces consequences for her actions.

        and for two she is not a threat to tolerant society, shes a serial killer.

        I dont think you actually know that the paradox of tolerance means.

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        Yes of course I have, how else could I have said “this isn’t that” without knowing about it lol?