• alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    To be fair, it’s a flawed argument.

    You can be against Google and Apple and still use a smartphone.

    You can be against a genocide being sponsored with your tax dollars and still work and pay tax.

    And yes, you can use the healthcare system that exists today and still want a different one tomorrow.

    Or do you think that advocates of universal healthcare are also hypocrites for using Obamacare?

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      You’re correct on all those, but OP was talking about people who praise the Affordable Care Act but vote for politicians who say they want to get rid of Obamacare. Those people aren’t using the system but want better, they are just ignorant that the two are the same thing.

      Now we absolutely could do better, but it’s better than what we had, and Republicans still want to get rid of it, even with less ties to Obama in name now. They truly hate people.

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      but the implication is that they are voting for the only party who doesnt want to expand healthcare or make it better in absolutely any way.

      even if they think the ACA is flawed and should be fixed, they are still not voting for the party to fix it.

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        In their mind, they are voting for the party that will fix it.

        You may disagree, as do I, but that’s what they think.

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          If I think cutting my brake lines will make my car go faster, I am, in fact, a moron directly failing to achieve my goal, NOT an intelligent being seeking alternative options…

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      Well, for almost a decade the GOP has had time to come up with their vision. They ran on “Repeal and Replace” in the 2016 cycle. But when it came time to vote to repeal, they still didn’t have a replace option.

      Prices didn’t go down when the 2018 tax cuts reduced corporate tax by about 30%, I doubt when the ACA gets repealed and insurance companies can drop the uninsurable people they will lower the prices for healthy Americans, because they are already anchored at the higher price.

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        Well, for almost a decade the GOP has had time to come up with their vision.

        That’s only 6 days in Trump’s 2 weeks timeline

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        Look, I wouldn’t trust the GOP with my shit stained underwear.

        Of course they don’t have a better plan.

        But voters who vote for them are still voters.

        And falling for a false narrative doesn’t make them hypocrites.

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      None of those analogies are applicable here. It’s more like voting against building codes when you live on a fault line.