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    5 months ago

    I would love to know how they are defining “athletic performance” in this study and how they supplemented protein intake. The nutritional needs of an Olympic swimmer, American football player, cyclist, fencer, powerlifter, etc are nowhere near the same thing.

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      In the abstract it acknowledges what you’re talking about. This biased source, mentions all sorts of pro athletes that are plant based. Strong man, NFL player, and ultra runners. The ultra runners are interesting because plant based probably gives an advantage.

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        Yeah, I recognize they acknowledged it, but they didn’t address it in the abstract. I’m not saying it can’t be done, I’m just wondering what their qualifiers are and what their actual approach was. Powerlifters require large amounts of protein intake that can be difficult to obtain from a 100% plant based diet. That could be addressed with plant based supplements, but that feels a little disingenuous to me.

        I suppose I could request the full study, but I can’t be bothered lol.

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          Powerlifters are over represented by vegans. Ultra runners and power lifters two poles on the dietary needs scale.

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          It’s a strange question, because first you’d have to quantify how many power lifters do not require supplements, from experience the answer is 0 but I could be wrong.

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          But… Most protein powder is vegan usually. Non vegan protein powder is more expensive for no reason.

          If you think powerlifters don’t take protein powder… Bruh.

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    If Roman Gladiators could live off of a plant-based diet, then I’m sure modern athletes can as well.

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      Source please?

      Also, by plant-based do you mean that the diet can include meat-based sources of nutrition as long as that’s not the main source?

      I am not saying that plant heavy diets are bad. On the contrary, I live with one but I still eat meat eggs and dairy and would expect ancient Romans with spending money such as Gladiators to do the same.

      Edit. Oh yes, tell me exactly how it works by downvoating me and not providing a source. I forgot that I was not in a place of learning.

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        Also, comparing modern athletes to ancient Romans is about like comparing them to today’s gifted teens in terms of pure physicality.

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            Oh hi, I’m that other guy reading the article that actually hypothesizes that the local diet was heavy in barley and beans and that of the bones examined there were also two anomalous gladiators who are hypothesized to have pinned from other parts of the Romin empire that had a diet much heavier than average in meat.

            Shocking that a town in the middle of arid turkey had a higher consumption of plant-based materials that don’t spoil as easily when compared to a more coastal or metropolitan environment that had better access to live markets.

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          So does the fact that they were drinking bone broth for the calcium supplements make them murderers as well?

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              How do you not even read the articles that you post?

              You should work on that it’s seeming to be a trend with your vegan fantasy posts.

              “But a diet of barley and vegetables would have left the fighters with a serious calcium deficit. To keep their bones strong, historical accounts say, they downed vile brews of charred wood or bone ash,”

              Bone ash is a material made by calcifying bones, then crushing them into powder.