When the user revolt ends—if it ever does—Reddit’s community won’t ever be the same.

“They’re shooting themselves in the foot,” Mir says. “The content of the users is what makes the platform worth visiting. These hosts kind of run into this confusion that their hosting is the reason people are going there, but it’s really for the other users on the medium.”

  • dan@lemm.eeEnglish
    170·
    2 years ago

    If it wasn’t hurting them they wouldn’t be doing damage control.

    It’s working, keep it up.

    • heartlessevil@lemmy.oneEnglish
      46·
      2 years ago

      It’s seriously hilarious that the “damage control” has been more damaging than the blackout itself

      • the_robomafia@readit.buzz
        35·
        2 years ago

        Definitely I would have gone back if not for the complete and total disrespect spez has shown towards the community

      • darkmugglet@lemm.eeEnglish
        35·
        2 years ago

        Ironically, if Reddit has been up front and said they were killing third party apps, and kept their mouths shut they would have faired better. For a stupid play like this, speaking only makes it worse. This is going to be taught in business school on how to kill a business.

        • TechyDad@beehaw.orgEnglish
          9·
          2 years ago

          They could have even gotten third party apps to pay for API access. They just needed to set a fair rate and a workable timeline for the change.

          Instead, they said “we’re charging $20 million starting next month. Good luck trying to stay afloat with those sudden costs!”

          Reddit could have increased their profits and kept users/moderators happy, but they chose Burn It All Down instead.

        • ericjmorey@beehaw.orgEnglish
          3·
          2 years ago

          Either way, I’d be preferring alternatives. On desktop, old.reddit.com plus RES (which is not entirely clear if they will be effected, though it looks like it will not be), but the mobile experience is not good on a mobile browser and I really don’t like the official app. Without RiF, I would not be participating much even without a direct alternative.

      • dan@lemm.eeEnglish
        8·
        2 years ago

        Haha yeah well I didn’t say they were doing a good job of it!

      • TechyDad@beehaw.orgEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        I don’t usually fault companies for messing up if they own up to their mistakes and make it right. Everyone is going to make mistakes and things will go wrong at times. It’s how a company handles events when everything goes sideways that shows whether they are good or bad.

        In Reddit’s case, they could have acknowledged that their API plans were too aggressive and overpriced. They could have paused any API pricing changes and worked with third party developers to come to a solution where Reddit is paid, but third party developers don’t have to shut down due to immediate and insanely high costs being demanded. Everyone could have walked away benefiting and Reddit’s reputation (in my eyes) would have been intact. I’d likely be posting there right now instead of here on Lemmy.

        Instead, Reddit decided to double and triple down. Their CEO decided to accuse the developer of Apollo of threatening Reddit and, when phone call audio proved this was a lie, blamed the developer for “leaking personal phone calls.” Then, that same CEO claimed that the API was never meant for third party apps (ignoring and trying to rewrite history) and said that any moderators who kept their subreddits blacked out would be replaced. All while claiming that the moderators should rest easy because Reddit would definitely provide tool themselves to replace lost third party tools despite no sign of this happening and trust being totally shattered. (And so much more that I’m not including because this comment is too long already.)

        So Reddit messing up? That could have been forgiven had they done the right thing afterwards. But now, after completely botching the response? I hope Reddit withers away to nothing and the CEO’s IPO dreams die on the vine.

    • lunacybooth@readit.buzz
      33·
      2 years ago

      They wouldn’t be lying about trying to work with devs

      Its fascinating watching him keep digging. He bullshits, gets caught out, so he bullshits about a different dev. Rinse. Repeat.

      • dan@lemm.ee
        7·
        2 years ago

        Thanks I’ve been trying to fill in those claims with links so this one is great :)

    • Bobbinapples@kbin.social
      5·
      2 years ago

      They wouldn’t be posting propaganda notices on new reddit’s homepage

      I want to know more about this, i haven’t heard of this yet.