It’s just the Lemmy keyboard warriors. Actual go-outdoors Americans are busy either: 1. fighting fascism without firearms, or 2. going about their lives and pretending fascism won’t come for them or people they care about.

Yeah turns out I was wrong about that… Must’ve been thinking of some other company! My bad.

Looks like I was wrong! Consider it a human hallucination.

Oops I was wrong… My bad. Not sure where I got that from.

Owned by Amazon, FYI.

Turns out I’m full of shit.

Look up “gerrymandering” and then come back.

They can point to their made-up laws and/or their made-up following of the laws and say that they can get away with whatever they like, but that doesn’t mean we have to let them.

The supreme court’s ruling about official acts only applies to the president. (The president does have pardon powers for others, but pardon powers aren’t new.)

With respect, you are wrong.

Anomalous scenarios like a giant flashing school bus? :D

My favorite tax policy hack for that last part is for the government to require a billionaire to formally declare the value of each of their assets (for purposes of calculating taxes)… with the stipulation that the government can choose to buy such an asset from the billionaire at the declared value at any time.

Gets to market rate real quick.

With Teslas, Self Driving isn’t even safer in pristine road conditions.

Oh, well you should’ve asked that from the start! I’ll copypasta one of my earlier comments on this topic:

The best way to resist fascism is the way that YOU will actually do. So if, for you, it’s calling your congresspeople from the comfort of your home, do that. If it’s going to protests, do that. If you’d rather be the hero escorting migrants from their court hearings, do that. If you’re the type of person who gets a kick out of making a giant ruckus outside the hotels where ICE agents are staying so they can’t sleep and ultimately get evicted, do that. And if your preferred means of resistance is, let’s be honest, a little more naughty, do that.

The best way to do any of the above, IMO, is to get involved with a local resistance or advocacy organization. (Here’s one place you can start.) Strength in numbers and everything.

My point though is that this is an all-hands-on-deck moment. It’s not the time for infighting or purity testing or hand wringing. It’s the time to fight.

Lol okay buddy you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Nice try, FBI.

Amen.

I appreciate the detailed comment and example scenario, but I don’t agree with the reasoning or the conclusion.

For a less-political example, let’s imagine hypothetically that Lemmy is very pro-linux.

Lol. Yes, hypothetically.

I don’t think this non-political example works as an analogy, because: 1. there isn’t a moral component to it (or not as much of a moral imperative), 2. the percentage of the populace that hates Linux doesn’t have much of an impact on the functioning of society, and 3. the target of the hate here isn’t a person or class of people that, you know, has the right to exist.

The reason I’m drawing that line is because the whole idea behind being intolerant of intolerance is because doing the opposite allows the intolerance to spread unchecked and fuck up society, having a very real negative impact on the targeted people. (And not, like, an OS.)

Part of the problem is that “the intolerant” is not a single group, but many groups that hate each other.

This is the difference between the political and non-political examples. In the Nazi vs. anti-Nazi example, one of those groups is absolutely morally right and therefore we should do everything we can to stamp out the intolerance. In the Linux vs. anti-Linux example, ehh, it is closer to a matter of opinion—or at least a lower-impact moral question.

It’s about cost-benefit, right? Like, what’s the cost to society if Nazi propaganda goes unchecked? Lives lost, people deported, families broken, etc. Seems pretty important then to pay the “cost” of not tolerating Nazis. But what’s the cost to society of anti-Linux propaganda goes unchecked? Costlier computers? More inefficient companies due to vendor lock-in and security issues? Maybe more state surveillance? It’s not good, but it’s nowhere near the same level as with the Nazi thing.

The result of intolerance of the intolerant is that they remain intolerant, and now the tolerant have become hard to distinguish from them, and there’s no way for pro-linux forces to be part of the conversation anti-linux people are having - allowing them to create their own culty filter bubble.

The culty bubble is going to exist regardless. The question is whether we let it infect everything else it touches.

That may sound idealistic, but I think that’s a lot closer to what we see in reality - intolerance thrives in closed off spaces, and dies in open ones.

It only dies in open ones if you shoot it down at every opportunity. But if you engage with it and allow the intolerant to do their “I’m just asking questions” sealioning, then it just metastasizes.

The best way to resist fascism is the way that YOU will actually do. So if, for you, it’s calling your congresspeople from the comfort of your home, do that. If it’s going to protests, do that. If you’d rather be the hero escorting migrants from their court hearings, do that. If you’re the type of person who gets a kick out of making a giant ruckus outside the hotels where ICE agents are staying so they can’t sleep and ultimately get evicted, do that. And if your preferred means of resistance is, let’s be honest, a little more naughty, do that.

The best way to do any of the above, IMO, is to get involved with a local resistance or advocacy organization. (Here’s one place you can start.) Strength in numbers and everything.

My point though is that this is an all-hands-on-deck moment. It’s not the time for infighting or purity testing or hand wringing. It’s the time to fight.

It’s a form of inaction and doomerism. “I voted the right way. My hands are clean… as we all march towards authoritarianism while nobody bothers to resist.” I don’t care how you voted. Get on the resistance train now or I guess see you in CECOT.

Maybe we’ll end up with Trump again after this if people don’t change the way they RESIST. Now is the time for active fucking resistance, not hand-wringing about past voting.