Yeah…and they’d keep dying even if you did what they were still doing only it’d be worse for so much longer.

I usually like your takes but you’re just saying “children dying=bad.”

Everyone knows that. But you also have to accept that there will be short term pain for a longer term gain. If you disagree then I’d like to hear solutions that you have to fix it without this. I mean- with these fixes an IMF loan is back on the table that could help alleviate some poverty potentially, etc. Economists are not the end all be all but again, the data is trending in the right direction despite the pain it takes to get back to good. There is no magic fix for decades of neglect here.

And who said he is good? I don’t personally like the guy for a bunch of his takes. But if this particular bit of policy is righting the ship then it should be lauded despite his personality or other flaws. And even then that is quite a…not sure how to phrase this politely, “lame” take that every libertarian ever doesn’t care about people’s suffering. I’ve read personal writings of his and it seems he believes that people are better off when they can provide for themselves without the state doing it for them. Now, I personally think that is bollocks but given where Argentina is with their massive government and massive debt he has far more room to have that attitude and push his ideas before they go too far. But again- if it’s just his personal beliefs it doesn’t mean that “does not give a shit about people suffering”- it’s that he believes they won’t once the state gets out of their way.

Seriously man- there is room for nuance here.

53% is not “around 60”. Moreover,

today Milei has a stable approval rating of 50 percent.

Apparently even some of those in poverty agree with his reforms.

I think people who only started paying attention to Argentina since he got elected should review the past few decades of history.

Im also not saying he’s great but he is at least making some needed reform. We’ll see if it continues. He definitely has an attitude and zeal that could push it too far but at this point it has helped.

Luigi even said that in the manifesto- economic protest isn’t viable in this system. He’s basically right.

Im not saying theyre activists. I have and generally theyre uninterested (obviously) but would learn if they took the time to actually vote. That or their opinions line up with more left of center things but they aren’t represented by that because they don’t vote. (The experience is probably different given you live in a blue area and I in a purple one.)

Even if they don’t, they should vote regardless. It’s a civic duty.

And yet everyone here bitches that the dems aren’t left enough, etc. Imagine if non voters got off their asses and actually voted in the primaries.

I don’t buy that nothing would change. Don’t buy that at all.

The whole reason theyre foregone conclusions is because people stay home. Someone link the map that shows non voters win most of the country.

Let?

Quite frankly you need to wake up and realize fellow Americans were too fucking lazy to vote Democrat for you. There’s nothing Democrats can do now.

Perhaps try blaming Republicans and their voters too.

No she lost because people like you convince everyone that “both sides are the same.” They are far from it and Dems are worth voting for because in our electoral system they’re the better choice (and the only realistic one.) That and people don’t do their CIVIC DUTY. It’s not incumbent on anyone to get you to vote at all. Go vote 3rd party for all I care but at least go vote.

And big changes tend to happen after big events. If you’re so hopeless then go be a Luigi. I would accept that. But I quite frankly am not looking at starting a civil war before we’ve at least tried to vote change in. And we clearly haven’t tried given that people don’t do it every single damn time.

And what big changes? I’d argue the ACA was one. Same with the IRA. You might not think so because it’s not single payer wrapped up with a bow or that the IRA didn’t immediately take us down from 1.5*C change but they are big. And they were done with VOTING. If you don’t recall, healthcare was abhorrent compared to what we have with the ACA. And maybe if people went and voted Dem since that was passed we’d either have a true public option or be even closer to single payer. But they didn’t so we’re not. Funny that.

If you want to lose forever, keep doing what you’re doing.

Quite frankly, I vote left in primaries and Dem in general.

If YOU want to lose forever, keep your ass at home and your involvement contained to bitching online. Surely we’ll get to a better place then. /s

It’s tragic. But hey- where were the people voting in primaries to oust Liebermann? And Biden and company just passed the biggest climate bill ever. But sure- take your ball and go home. I’m sure things will magically get better by being lazy.

I think the turning point for being mature is when people realize that politics is not about big changes. Maybe they campaign on them but things don’t happen like that. It takes a long time even if the answer is obvious. Thinking that all of a sudden the US will dismantle the healthcare and health insurance industries in ONE term of Congress when it underpins a ton of the economy (which includes people’s jobs mind you- not just made up crap on the stockmarket) is foolish. It is a leviathan and will take time to eventually get to universal with insurance (ie. public and private) or single payer, etc.

And FWIW, it’s easier for Republicans to get what they want because all they want to do is break things. Trying to build something takes time. But again, go off.

Yeah, that’s kind of how it works.

Do you think the tea party got their fascist takeover in 2010? No, they worked years and years and kept pushing their party further to the right every single time until it finally happened.

Imagine that- you have to put in a couple hours of work at most every year or two for so many years to actually get what you want. Oh how absolutely awful that burden is. /s

Except if the dems had solid majorities for years they could be pushed left easily. Look at California. Not as left as Lemmy wants obviously but so much further left than the majority of the country.

Presumably because he/she is a person who wants to live somewhere without the hassle of having to own a house and that is impossible without landlords. And they are not the only one like that.

So your idea that all of it is parasitism has met someone, arguably you mean to help, who likes landlords. Because despite what some people think, a lot don’t want to sign on the immense debt for a house nor maintain it. Landlords provide a service in that case and why is it your right to deny renters and landlords that service?

That doesn’t mean there aren’t parasitic landlords because there very much are. But a blanket statement that it’s all bad seems foolish. Perhaps nuance is very much lost on people nowadays.

Well that’s great because you could still do that even if they included a jack.

Dude, I speak like four languages. It’s a dumb name in my opinion.

Because like the op said- it’s not clear how it’s to be pronounced.

I’ve learned some Esperanto. Doesn’t mean it’s a great base for naming a project.

I think it’s interesting but also still a terrible name. But I fear the time to change it is long gone.

Sure it does. Same way you shame bad parts of society. Non voters deserve blame and shaming. Ignoring their abdication of civic duty just entrenches their bad behavior by excusing it.

Pssh. I mean, I voted. I did my part. Millions others though didn’t.

I don’t why lemmy people find it so hard to not blame the DNC and actually blame the people who either voted for fascism or did nothing to stop it. Maybe because some of them are the very same as the latter.

Yeah a lot of people blaming Biden when we all had a fair shot at voting against fascism. We suck. May as well actually accept that.

Yep. Non voters asked for this, whether they realize it or not. Hope they enjoy the shit sandwich