I want people with your eloquence in my life to keep me in check with my shit. <3

Saving lives isn’t a “relative concept.” I said nobody will be brought out of poverty from this, which is true.

No it’s not.

The fact that you keep denying it, doesn’t mean I need to debunk jack. You are saying “you can’t be brought out of poverty, because in a global perspective if you earn more than 3$ a day, you are not poor”, or at least, I am paraphrasing. I am saying that’s bullshit, because poverty is a relative concept and you can absolutely be poor even if you are above what is globally considered the threshold of poverty.

I am focusing on this part because it is the basis of your argument. Also:

• you have realistically no idea about the condition of the people who benefit from this
• being in debt is a situation that in itself can cause people to take their own lives, making your statement also arbitrary (no life was saved)

Calling poor people in the first world rich is again, dumb. Deal with this, no organization that focuses on poverty does it, and nobody would consider - say - a welfare check “keeping money on the top”.

I don’t know if you genuinely don’t get class divisions or if you just search for conflict online (I have seen you around…).

You are completely missing the fact that poverty is a relative concept. Using global parameters to decide that poor people in rich countries are rich is so out of touch that I cannot even describe it.

There are whole studies made on the effect of relative poverty, in case you want to expand your horizons.

Also people of that kind love nothing more than being a martyr, which means if the whole decision is not absolutely bulletproof, this has the potential to backfire so much. Not Romanian, but I was listening some opinion piece about this just few days ago.

Open source analytics tools are still pushing for ad-driven business models that make the world (and the content) worse. Open source LLMs still waste computational power and pollute. And the list continues. Some open source technologies serve a good goal, some contribute to make the world as bad as some non-OSS.

Currently reading “Lungo la corrente” (“along the stream”). It’s a nonfiction book about the impact that the fading gulf stream is having on Europe, from Azores to Svalbard, in terms of climate and biodiversity. Spoiler alert: not a reassuring read.

I don’t believe it exists translated.

Kant song costs Kant singer her can’t sing. [Semicit.]

You are not though. That’s the point. You are making up bullshit to pretend you are to use “pointing out racism” as a moral shield. Pathetic, in fact.

You are trying to fabricate sympathy for Russians in a post where nobody is attacking them (as russians), about Ukraine military aid. You know what you are doing, you can make the paraculo as much as you want.

I can try all the atlas. It’s not a matter of which country. I am contesting the principle.

No.

Lemmy is also filled with a lot of stuff. Not a reason to bring it up in random out-of-context conversations.

Go preach to people who do that. Here you were just trying to throw shade at Ukrainians. “See, everyone is bad?!”

In fact it’s not racist even in that case.

Stating a fact can’t be racist, even if the meaning is that people were being shot due to their nationality. Nice gotcha, I have used like 3 times examples with Italians to show that this has nothing to do with racism. “You need to use their country to make them realize!”. (Also, this reeks of E ALLORA LE FOIBEE!?!?!)

Do you want to claim that Ukrainians are ethnically cleansing Russians? Do that. Provide your argument and do that. Don’t go bust the balls of people who say sentences that have nothing to do with that, that clearly don’t advocate for that or celebrate that.

Dude, I live in Estonia for 10 years, in a russian-speaking district. Unlike you, I understand russophobia. This conversation is completely out of place in the context of OP statement. You are trying to discuss stuff that is completely irrelevant to what OP said. You are here to stir shit, to make the moral about russophobia in a post where nothing like that was present. Again, if you didn’t purposefully try to misinterpret OP’s sentence, you would understand that in the context the sentence was clearly meant for Russian soldiers part of an invading force, and hating and shooting them has nothing to do with Russophobia. Please, give me a sign you understand this basic concept.

Ci fai o ci sei?

If someone said “in Afghanistan they were shooting Italians on the spot” I wouldn’t find it discriminatory, because I am not an idiot, and I can immediately understand that they refer to the people who went there as a foreign army, not to random Italians.

It’s so ridiculous that you are still here arguing about this, and you know why? Because you could have made the same argument about Ukrainians. OP said that Ukrainians are shooting Russians on the spot. Do you think OP meant that all Ukrainians are shooting all Russians? Do you think he meant that 2 yo Ukrainians, take out the pacifier to shoot the random Russian person who works at the local shop and is there for 20 years? Or maybe the obvious message was that Ukrainian army is shooting Russians (in the invading army) on the spot?

No no, let’s go and divert attention on a useless conversation for a sentence that was obvious even to rocks.

In any case, do you understand that stating a fact is not discriminatory? OP didn’t say “I hope they kill every Russian”, he they said “they are shooting”, which can’t be discriminatory if it’s a fact. Reality is not discriminatory. At most it could be false.

No shit, so you do understand that if someone said the sentence quoted in the context of resistance, every person with a pulse will understand “they are shooting German troops soldiers or the Nazi” and not “every person with a German passport, who spoke German, etc.”?

Because you are being that obtuse person that would point out how that is a “racist discrimination” and that there were Germans living in Italy at the time. We all know why you are doing it, I keep answering just for fun. I know it, you know it, we are all discussing about nothing, because you know very well what OP meant, if nothing else because I know that Italian public education is at least decent and you know at least how to read.

you aware that there are russian people

Some of them are getting shot. The ones belonging to an army who is invading. The random resident who immigrated is not being shot

How a statement such as “they are shooting Russians on the spot” discriminatory? It’s a statement, not even a call to do that. Stop embarrassing yourself, take the L and just close this post, PD.

I am not new, but I have a skill that you might find useful, it’s called “context”.

racist generalization in comment?

Because there is no any racial generalization. From the context it was clear to anybody who is in good faith what OP meant. Even if it wasn’t, OP comment was a statement on what is happening, so your remark “I hope they don’t…” doesn’t make any fucking sense, because you can just check what they are doing. Currently Russians in Ukraine that are being shot are invading troops.

So let’s make a parallel. “Partisans were shooting germans”, in the context of Italian resistance. Do you think it’s a racist remark? Would you feel the need to say " oh boy, I hope they don’t shoot German civilians", “oh, there are ethnical Germans in the north, I hope they are not shooting them”. No you wouldn’t, because what you are doing is not in good faith, you are not raising any valid concern, you are just purposefully misunderstanding OP to stir shit.

I saw you around, and I know also you are Italian, so I will tell you in a way you understand. You are being a “puntalcazzista” to throw shade on Ukraine with vague racism claims. Anybody with a pulse will understand that “shooting every Russian on the spot” means “shooting every invader”, and that roughly would include also north Koreans or other ethnicities, should those set foot in Ukraine to assist Russian invasion. You are trying to claim an interpretation that doesn’t make sense, because - as I told you and you can easily verify - the Ukrainian army itself is full of Russian speaking people, who you might call “ethnic Russian” - whatever you think that means. So unless you are honestly suggesting that OP was suggesting Ukrainian army is also shooting on the spot to members of its own army, we both know what you are doing.

Only the Russian imperial narrative is so that Russians speaking people are considered Russians. There are Russian speaking people in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine and in many -Stans, they are not Russians.

Not a very useful remark. The Ukrainian army is full of Russians speaking people.