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  • Yes, that’s why I said let’s ignore Boeing. I’m asking for the “correct” solution to this problem.

    The more I think about it, I think the adversarial nature of auditing must come from the Government side. Which is precisely why Boeing became an issue.

    There is an option where independent teams of auditors review the product, and the team with the most findings gets a bonus. Perhaps this could be considered. But again, who’s job is it to ensure this overall program is safe for the public? That’s not the manufacturer, especially a corporation. We already know the courts have ruled corpos only responsibility is to current stock holders and short term gains.


  • Let’s ignore Boeing for a second, because this is an interesting problem. Our society rewards production and accepting that, I’m not sure getting planes “out the door” is inherently bad.

    It seems to me the issue lies in how to reward the auditors. I think we’d all agree this responsibility should ultimately be a Gov’t function… but internal quality assurance is a thing too. So, how does a company reward this team of auditors? E.x., Finding more errors naively seems like the correct metric. However, their bonus would then go down with program effectiveness- that is, fewer errors/faults based on adversarial competition between the production team and the auditing team would lead to fewer findings (presumably).

    Management bonuses is a whole other issue. Then, who should oversee this entire program of rewards to ensure it’s systematically safe for the public? Assuming we accept the premise that rewards are desired.



  • I’m not sure if the “this interpretation” reference is about the “preemptive defederation as a last resort” or the “lying” bit, but the first doesn’t need an interpretation because it was stated in the post:

    Defederation should only be considered as a last resort. However, based on their comments and behavior, no positive outcomes can be expected. We made the decision to preemptively defederate from Hexbear for these reasons.

    The “lying” bit… I’m not sure where that comes from. It’s not the best “informed rhetoric,” that’s for sure.



  • Holy shit dude. I read context fine. Let me spell it out for you with crayons:

    • [In the future] “It may not reach them” (This implies a possibility of failure)

    • [in the future] “it can not be stopped” (This implies an absolute probability of success)

    These don’t fucking match.

    • “but it will be committed to a point where” can be replaced with “in the future”

    Unless you actually meant “can not” instead of the proper “cannot”. I assumed it was a typo, but could have been a very idiotic and convoluted way to say it can [possibly] not be done… in which case I guess you got me.

    Edit: I reviewed your comment history. You’re an obvious troll or idiot. The problem is, you wouldn’t be perceptive enough to know the truth.