We could also work towards doing without them entirely.

All other thoughts aside, it honestly baffles me that people look at the cost of a vehicle and decide that it’s a smart financial decision in today’s economy, especially with these gas prices.

We gave up Alberta Government Telephones for this fuckass company by the way.

Great, blatant transphobia, trying to subtly push in the “trans people groom children” trope.

Not going to give you the time. Goodbye.

I don’t know what to tell ya man, I literally highlighted why I like the character and why I use them as a profile pic, and you’re actively choosing to ignore that fact in order to paint me as something I’m not.

End of the day, I explained my rationale, you’re rejecting it attempting to paint me as something I’m actively showcasing I’m not, and thereby you’re the person putting a sexual connotation here while trying to project that narrative onto me.

Hey buddy, these you by chance?

Go pick another fight.

Me liking a character from a series because she represents my experience growing up with undiagnosed inattentive ADHD: “wow, she’s literally me, it feels nice feeling seen”

Random internet strangers: “Well you see, that’s a red flag because clearly you must have an attraction to children and there can be no other reason why you like this character. I didn’t make this weird at all!”

No, I’m calling this out.

We have a disagreement in another community to which you name call me and mock me having depression in response to that disagreement, and then you come here and essentially vaguepost calling me pedo adjacent because of my profile picture?

I like Osaka because she’s relatable and gives me comfort as a character that speaks to who I am, not because I think she’s attractive. I genuinely have no words to how low this is.

“Censor people you disagree with”

The modlogs are public. Anybody here can go to the modlogs to see what you’ve been saying and I encourage them to. I once again reiterate you mocked my depression diagnosis calling my PDD “big sad” to “make a point” when at no point did I insult you or anybody else on this thread.

I can disagree with people and be civil about it. You took something I suffer from (a mental disorder), claimed to speak on behalf of it, and then in the same breath, mocked me for having it.

You called me a “shitty person”, but ironically enough you seem to be projecting saying things like this.

Saying I have a “lack of empathy” is rich when you mock a person with depression for their diagnosis.

Have a good day.

I never said I recovered. The hell is your problem? You come over here claiming to speak on behalf of people with mental disorders, and then when I come out and say “hey, here’s what I suffer with”, you make a point to mock my depression calling it “big sad” and putting words in my mouth stating that I’m claiming everyone else has a “skill issue”.

The only issue here is your behaviour. I’m not taking anything you say seriously from this point on out because how am I supposed to trust that you’re supposedly speaking on behalf of people like myself when you throw them under the bus the second you get the opportunity to over a disagreement.

At no point did I call anybody here any names, and yet hilariously I’m being made out to be the bad guy because I have a differing opinion. Get the hell out of here with this disrespect and never claim to speak on behalf of people with any disorder ever again.

Go protest a-

I attend protests regularly and am actively engaged in civil change programs and organisations.

Debilitatingly mentally ill and/or neurologically different

So like me, who has autism, ADHD, Persistent Depressive Disorder, has been denied a Borderline Personality Disorder diagnosis by my doctor out of fears of stigma, has CPTSD, etc.

shitty people like you

At no point did I name-call anybody else. Funny how someone with mental and neurological disorders gets told to “fuck off” and is called a “shitty person” when their view differs from other people with mental disorders, almost like we don’t have the capacity to think straight and rationally a lot of the time and shouldn’t be making such a decision like this when we have provably treatable conditions.

“It’ll obviously lead to eugenics because why stop there”. Persistent Depressive Disorder is treatable and requires that you stay in a depressive state for at least two years to be diagnosed. A MAID assessment is 90 days. See the issue here? People could be given the wrong treatment options because they’re thought to have the wrong conditions and can decide that they want to end their life when other treatment options and diagnoses could be in play. This process can be complicated when you’re neurodiverse. A “choice” forced on you by society and systemic injustice is not really a choice, hence why I do call it eugenics. We don’t have to literally be brought into pens like cattle for it to be eugenics, all it takes is for us to be considered undesirable, which is already the case among a lot of people, and for the government to take improving our lives off the table as an option, replacing things with “deal with it, or die”.

Your argument is basically “people worse off than you shouldn’t have to do xyz for change because reasons”. I don’t know about you, but I’ve had it pretty bad so don’t come here playing these nonsense games of name-calling if your end goal is “but I’ve had it worse than you, therefore I’m right”

“Let’s not change the system as it stands, lets just get rid of minorities and people facing minority issues, and the system fixes itself!”

Idk man, that sounds eerily similar to fascism. Just because it’s sugar-coated as being an “option” (which benefits them because they can no longer be held accountable for their poor decisions) doesn’t make it any better.

We already have cases of veterans being suggested MAID for minor issues. People with mental illnesses, especially the “bad ones” already have a lot of hoops to jump through to be taken seriously because of systemic issues in the medical system.

You’re essentially letting the people who make those issues prevalent win in allowing this. A lot of these issues are also the result of traumatic situations where they know the worst of people and nothing else.

If I was given MAID as an option ten years ago, I would have taken it because I grew up around severe abuse and betrayal, and only knew people for the worst of what they could be and treated kindness and generosity as something to immediately be suspicious of regardless of the situation. A lot of the times these are disordered behaviours where the second you get a diagnosis for something like borderline personality disorder, people, even many of the physicians supposedly caring for you, assume the worst of you.

What prevents a physician from saying “narcissistic personality disorder? Oppositional defiant disorder? Let me just take the opportunity to suggest this real quick and make things better for all of us”

Or, and hear me out here, instead of giving the government a cop out to say “your well-being is not our problem, have fun killing yourself”, we have them do their jobs of governing and providing people with basic living standards and human dignity.

If they didn’t suspend this and went ahead with this, what’s preventing them from basically saying “it is what it is, if you can’t function in the society we made inaccessible, here’s your way out, not our job to coddle you”?

Disabled and mentally ill people killing themselves to suit society’s needs will become the norm when it should be the opposite. This is basically systemic eugenics.

If our gun laws here were like those in the states, I truly would not be here right now.

The same would be of MAID if it was supplied for those with mental illnesses.

It is insane to me that people are just casually blowing this off as if it means nothing. You have no room to regret a permanent decision, and no hope to hold out on.

If my attempts were successful I would have never found myself in this spot where yes, things are still rough, but I can at least say it’s better. I’d have never predicted where things would have gone ten years ago when I was still depressed and feeling suicidal then, by giving people the option to do this, you rob them of the potential for a better life forever.

Cool. So the “right” thing for people like me with mental illnesses to do is to kill ourselves, or have the “right” to decide to do it when we’re of unsound mind.

Do tell me how this isn’t basically eugenics?

Why does everybody think black and white on this?

I’m clinically depressed. You can tell a person with depression they deserve to live with dignity while also telling them the world as it exists is cruel. Why must the options either be telling depressed people to “suck it up”, or essentially telling them to off themselves with no middle ground?

This all feels like having a dirty white shirt, having no washer or dryer to clean it, and when given the opportunity to ask for something, we ask to throw it out instead.

People go to people’s profiles to look for dirt on them, I mention being from Alberta on my profile, so I just assumed that you saw my profile, saw that, and jumped to the word “Conservative”.

If that’s not something you did, sorry I got it wrong, but my overall point still stands here.

Also next time you have a suicidal friend, by your own logic, you shouldn’t console them because telling them what they should and shouldn’t do is Conservative logic.

Obviously Conservative

Yeah because living in Alberta is immediately equal to being Conservative, can’t live here and be otherwise because everyone knows we’re a hivemind. Can’t be a progressive and think that the mentally ill and disabled have a right to live with dignity, you have to think black and white and think they either deserve to live and wallow in the status quo, or should kill themselves. Weird how I’m being called a Conservative for being against the same thought process Conservatives have.

Control Freak

Don’t fight me on the point of saying people with mental illnesses and disabilities should have the right to live with dignity. Tell a person living with a long term mental illness to “fuck off” because their opinion doesn’t matter in a discussion about the right to live with dignity unless it’s the “right” opinion, which weirdly is the same line of thinking as Conservatives who think the value of your life is either making profit for others, or of no value at all.

Genuinely what is your problem? I give my experience of having to view these conversations second-hand about what people truly think of people with conditions such as mine, and am immediately told to “fuck off”.

Just goes to show a lot of people don’t care nearly as much as they claim to and that people like us are seen as disposable and lesser than, and instead of fighting that point, you decide to propagate it and insult me without due reason.

No? Good on them for barring mental illness as a sole reason.

I live with Persistent Depressive Disorder and it’s admittedly been frustrating seeing people essentially telling people like myself that we should do the thing we’re unhealthily telling ourselves to do anyways.

It literally comes off as people trying to tell me I’m lesser than and should kill myself, but with the veneer of continuing to look progressive.