Yup, that’s the way it’s going. There won’t be enough take up so they’ll start putting features ("oh, you want golf, that’ll be the $3.99/month golf subscription) and data like personal bests behind the paywall

This thought comes to me alot: my mum passed relatively early and my grandfather shortly after that.

I’d not want either to have had to experience what this world has become

Ah thanks, and apologies as I could have just ecosia’ed that ;)

I recall an app called endomondo doing similar. I’d bought the Pro version for lifetime only to find them move to a Premium option.

That was fine as I still had what I had paid for… until take up wasn’t good enough and slowly key features moved behind the paywall.

Im fairly certain this is the direction this is going. I wonder if there’ll be a class action if so to force buy back of the hardware

This was in my mind but I don’t spend money easily so intend to replace it when it breaks.

I’ll need to reassess if the US invades

Sorry, what does that achieve please?

How is that not true anymore? Here in the UK home ownership is increasingly a dream for the younger people so guess what - you’re 100% reliant on work/pay to make rent on a home and to have stability for your family

I’m 3yrs into having done this, and it only works because my wife has a car so really we only got rid of the 2nd car so doesn’t count.

I think it’s a really valid proposal for 2nd cars but even then only if you’re not needing to transport kids at multiple times

Oh, and the basic - don’t carry your cell phone/smart watch regardless of whether it’s switched off

I think the phrase is “I couldn’t care less”.

I can’t argue with that, at least in the US that’s always been a strength of their’s.

I initially held the view that range was irrelevant if it’s a massive battery but even on that score Tesla seemed to be ahead of the game for a long time on the efficiency (miles per kw). Not sure if the market has caught up as I’m not at that end of the food chain so speak.

I can understand why your next one will be electric as pretty much all the benefits you describe are benefits of an EV not a Tesla.

I drive an old beater of a leaf and have the same list

I reckon the Mazda badge is a good call as the tesla 3 has the vibe of a Mazda I think.

I rmemeber rocking up to guys place to buy a sofa and his mum was there, I said I really liked her Hyundai Coupe and she said it wasn’t one as she’d got different badges on it. Found it so funny that it was a nice looking car at the time but she clearly couldn’t cope with the idea of owning a Hyundai

Could have just said the knicks will win the world series and left it at that, jesus

I’m genuinely so excited to have actually encountered one in the wild. That is, someone that is trying to claim that Elon didn’t sieg heil multiple times. Fascinating, they said people would but I just didn’t believe them

Got you, sorry to come across preachy. It’s probably more that I missed your $30/month point which I guess means to lease a shit box.

Naturally only works if it works but 3yrs back I moved to a electric moped and the savings have been insane. I feel better about hiring a car/grabbing a taxi/being fleeced by the train companies once in a while

Why wouldn’t you just buy an EV from a different brand? All the benefits you describe are of an EV, not a Tesla

I feel bad that as consumers at best we label all under Trump’s banner, at worst we don’t have the ability to punish only the red states like government tariffs can do

Stay strong

Yup, me too. By coincidence I’ve moved from us platform to an non-us one so that nice too.

The idea isn’t to eliminate all spend, it’s the low hanging fruit and then go from there. I’m seeing it as a game with badges to collect!!