Again, I don’t think we disagree. It is a complex topic, and one worth talking about, especially within circles that should generally unite against common enemies.

There are people who use globalist as a dogwhistle to mean global Jewish conspiracy bullshit, dating back to the original Nazis.

There are people, like attac, Occupy Wallstreet and so on, that used and use globalism in its economical meaning in order to criticise the current system of exploitation and speculation.

There are people that intentionally try to paint the second kind of people as antisemites, especially if they dare to call out Israel, in order to discredit them.

There are people that intentionally try to infiltrate arguments in order to make people support antisemitism and to make it seem that antisemitism is a valid opinion.

All of those people exist in varying quantities, but a right-wing person mentioning “globalists” is, in my experience, quite likely to mean “I don’t like Jews”.

I don’t really know why you dragged the Democrats in here. I’m not even from the US, from my point of view, large parts of the Democrats are a turbo-capitalist right-wing party that happen to have a handful of progressive social values. Obviously, the Republicans are fascists in everything but their lack of trains and Mediterranean food.

You manage to be on the exact same page, yet completely miss the point.

This person is so close.

I hate to say it, but you are “this person”. Nobody is glorifying democrats here. There are rich fucks, and there are poor people suffering the consequences. Period.

Oh, we had. Rats are common in all cities, and mice in the countryside. Sure, nowadays you’d just get an exterminator, but having a cat would prevent that as well. Our dog caught a rat in our basement once, and I’m pretty sure we avoided mice due to her presence as well.

Just wait until we have overturn the fascist system, then you’ll be first against the wall!

I saw a historic photo in a magazine once, where some European colonial officers tried to tame and ride zebras

Slight correction: Someone (likely a state actor, or just some very leet larpers) got into the hosting infrastructure that NP++ uses, and compromised the downloaded program. We mostly have the NP++ guy’s word for it, so take it with a grain of salt, but if he does not make things up, that is something that can happen with basically all software, there is not much that he can do against it (except maybe find a better hosting company).

I’ve seen a lot of students at climate and social protests. Back in my day, if you deviated from the norm only a bit, you’d be called “edgy”, “gay”, “misled” and so on. When I look at what would have turned you into an outsider back in my not-so-distant past and beaten up after school, and what some students dare to do today, I have some hope. There are good people out there. They are just hard to see behind all the loud, stupid and malicious ones.

Yes, but: not falling into the slop machine takes willpower and learned skills. Modern social media is like a drug. Many adults use drugs responsibly to have good times, but we all agree that we should keep kids away from them.

A good point of view. Someone, somewhere will fight the odds and carry on. Someone will love, hate, create art, suffer, exploit and be exploited, create new nonsense jokes and slang, and make the same mistakes. Quite literally until the the last lights go out.

No, of course not, I was only referring to the initial post.

Sane people, in my internet?!

Abuse sucks in general, there is more domestic violence and sexual abuse done to women than to men, lots of traditional Muslim countries have very traditional (male-favouring) gender roles, subverting expectations can be funny. What more is there to say?

Wasn’t a core philosophy of Calvinists basically “god loves capitalism” (before the word was really established)?

Nah, that’s not it. Germany has legal and - theoretically - regulated prostitution, and society is not meaningfully different than, say, France in that redgard as far as I can tell.

There are other issues associated with it, but just that one argument alone doesn’t seem to work based on what I’ve seen.

I mean, congrats on your nihilism. If I cared about neither myself nor those close to me nor some abstract “humanity” or “society”, I would have it much easier in life.

Sadly, I still feel bad when I think of bad things happening to good people, or, even worse, me.

I don’t know about you, but:

1. I have some money. Not much, but I’d like to keep it, because food and rent is kind of required.

2. I don’t have a criminal record, and I would hate it if someone used my identity to commit crimes. At the very least, doors and lawyers are expensive.

3. Figure out how to simulate and scam me and a few million other dudes like me, and you have pretty good chances of getting elected here. That stuff is happening in all major elections now, and the results are, well, I assume you read the news.

4. I would really hate it if you send my detailed porn habits to my boss and my grandma. At the very least my boss would think I’m an idiot and don’t deserve a job working with computers and expensive machines.

Bonus argument:

I’ve been told that for years and nothing ever comes of it cause what do I got worth taking?

I’ve known people who drive without a seatbelt for years, and they haven’t died yet.

You do realise it is not about the physical phone, but what you do / have on it? That’s why I said access, and on the net.

My physical device is worth what, $50 with the half dead battery and all the scratches.

My bank and savings account is worth quite a bit more, and my non-felon status, citizenship of a (for now) democratic country and my private and professional reputation are as well.

Why do you not let someone look over your shoulder when you vote?

And if that is an unfair comparison, look at Cambridge analytica, and how things have gone downhill with AI and all that since then.

If you want some pathos, it is your civic duty as a citizen who wants to preserve liberty in a democratic coutry, to be at least somewhat independent and unpredictable from a state that wants you to be predictable and controllable.

OK, now give your phone and wallet access to anyone on the net.

Including the government, that other government, Kim Jong Un, a pimply broke teeneager in some failed ex-soviet state who doesn’t extradite to your place, Mike the Pervert (not allowed within 100m from any other living or recently deceased human by a court order), Mario NotAMobstero and Ranjin who works for $2.50/h in a scam call center.

Gold angle, I didn’t hear that before

“Maybe nothing to hide, but something to protect” is a nice one.

I genuinely had no idea how people could misunderstand the movie, until I met such people. It is weird.