Don’t worry about EleventhHour. They live to argue with anyone over stupid things. They’re trolling just to get a rise out of you.

The electoral system will be fixed if Trump wins. He will just dissolve it and end the election process. Voila! Reform!

🙄

Yeah so the message so far has been carte Blanche vote third party. None of the nuance you’re displaying here is evident in 99% of these 3rd party posts. They’re all “genocide BAD, vote 3rd party or you’re COMPLICIT!” so the message here isnt what you’re saying.

Secondly, applying your logic regarding wasted effort because your state is solid blue, telling others to write their congresspeople on the issue is equally useless. Throwing the onus on them is shortsighted. The, “what have YOU done” argument doesn’t really hold water with anyone, particularly when many people reside in a solid red or blue state

Finally, voting 3rd party sends “a” message after the election, not during, and no candidate ever looks back at the election results to ask Greenies why they didn’t vote for them. They do canvassing before and during, and quite frankly they have to walk a tightrope between courting lefties and every other single-issue voter. Imagine you’re running and you have Greenies yelling about genocide, women’s rights yelling about bodily autonomy, and LGBTQ folks yelling about equality and all three don’t give a flying fuck about the others. What would you do? Exactly what Harris is doing - courting the biggest blocs of voters.

I’m not gonna touch on the general laziness of my compatriots, but when I went to early vote at my precinct there were a lot of people voting straight ticket, so I don’t think most people will dig through ballots to send that message. Frankly, Trump in power means nothing for down ballot votes because he still installs a fascist regime.

I think it’s the 3rd party voters here that are implying that.

This is such a backward comment I don’t know where to start. Tortured logic, the fact that voting 3rd party doesn’t send the specific message you’re looking to send, or perhaps that it’s all Harris’ fault that she lost while ignoring everything about outside election interference including Stein’s ties to Russia and conservatives all in one post. Bonus points for projecting that a large death of her base cares solely about Gaza and would be willing to suffer fascism instead.

Can’t wait until these astroturfing accounts are retired after the election.

How so?

Who controls the House? That’s a better barometer of change but having a supportive president is paramount. Either have control of the house and overwhelming control of the Senate, or enough control of both that a friendly President signs the bill into law.

Why hasn’t Biden done it already? Mike Johnson.

Is there a single post in your history where you don’t spew absolut bullshit?

Every post of yours is unfounded garbage about how Democrats are complicit or working with the GOP to do some nefarious thing.

Here’s an unfounded claim for you: you’re full of shit and a foreign agent trying to sway votes for fascism.

Yeah let’s downplay EVERYTHING ELSE she’s campaigned on and redefine democratic excitement to be focused solely on Palestine, and yeah you’re right.

You know I voted for Harris.

Sure, bud. I know I can’t verify that but I doubt it. You wouldn’t wholly support genocide like you’re accusing others of, would you? 🙄

Yeah alright fam. Whatever floats your boat.

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It’s pretty straightforward - if they vote for Trump and Trump gives Israel the go ahead to wipe out all Palestinians then the ones here that voted for that got what they asked for. Pretty simple.

Nope.

If they don’t vote for anyone then I understand and sympathize. If they vote for ultra-genocide to spite Democrats then they get what they asked for.

From my experience in my very red state, there’s a high degree of cognitive dissonance when it comes to those things. A family friend who’s very religious is secretly undergoing IVF even though the church banned it’s use because they want a child more than the threat of excommunication. Supposedly they’ll be forgiven for going against the church since they’re “fundamentally good” people.

“Mary hat hey lid tell lam, ids fleas woes white has know”

Oh that’s way down by Terre Haute. Makes slightly more sense but still baffles me that someone can simultaneously be proud of being in a union while supporting the guy that wants to dismantle them.

That’s Indiana for you. NWI is littered with that and some of the people I work with are in a union and parrot Fox News. Wildest shit I’ve ever seen.