I see a lot of parallels between this man and Trump, even up to the nature and level of support they got.

I may have disagreed with Ron on almost all things policy, but at least the man had a spine and stood up for his values with consistency. Rand does not.

Some plastics are more stable than others. That said, we are admittedly far too lackadaisical with them in general.

To answer your direct question, we do have an FDA that does a passable job with some things, salmonella outbreaks, emergency vaccine development, stuff like that. There is probably some regulatory capture at play, though, where business interests get their people appointed into oversight roles. When a full half of our government is so vocally and rabidly pro-business, this is difficult to prevent in the long run.

Prob just a territory, really. Can’t be ruining our perfectly even 100 Senators.

That’s a really great analogy. lol “This is going to be really mentally scarring for you, and the stains will never come out of your clothes, you know…”

Yeah, the Bible-thumpers claim to have the answers and want you to realize something too.

grapples with political turmoil and North Korean propaganda.

Y’know, of all the world’s countries, I would expect S Korea to be one of the most resistant to adversarial propaganda. I mean, here in the US we were largely insulated from it during the Cold War, so we didn’t really have the exposure and thus experience in dealing with it. But S Korea has always been in radio range of an adversary, so shouldn’t it be pretty well understood as “a thing” by the public at large?

Like, when someone knocks on my door and asks if I’d like to talk about Jesus, I understand exactly what is happening and why. We’re culturally familiar with that here. If a S Korean picks a pamphlet up off the ground and it’s obvious N Korean propaganda, do they have that same degree of cultural familiarity?

The comment I was replying to said the following:

For anyone wondering, this is what those staff ignored for two hours (WARNING: this may well trigger you, it sure as fuck ruined my day): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx4in4UpdWE

This video is 43 seconds long. You hear that sound out of a little kid’s leg, followed by the screaming for two hours, and don’t immediately call the ambulance, you’re not a reasonable adult. You’re an inhuman monster. Anyone saying “well maybe they thought he was just acting out” is ignoring the basic facts of the case so they can be contrary on the Internet.

This implies staff knowingly ignored a severe injury, which is what I find unlikely and wanted to get straight.

Agreed, mostly. My issue is with the assumption that the staff knowingly neglected a severe injury, which is what the other commenter was trying to imply for some reason. There’s just no way that ends well for them, in our country where people will chew out teachers for even giving a bad grade. The only way this strikes me as possible is the staff severely underestimating the child’s condition after a “slip and fall”.

Perhaps I don’t. Though I think each of your examples has systemic reasons that make it unique from this situation.

It’s a school, so there’s no capitalist profit incentive unlike a nursing home. These are not bystanders, but people with a specific responsibility towards this child, and again, no profit incentive.

In this case, the child has parents that will be expecting their kid back from school in one piece at the end of the day. There is no way in hell they could realistically get away with knowingly ignoring such a severe injury. Broken femurs, again, can kill you due to internal bleeding. Not the death of some elderly nursing home patient, the death of a child (who has parents) under your care in a place where children do not die very often.

I don’t see it as very likely.

So let me get this straight:

You think the staff heard something like this, and therefore knew that there was a severe injury, but just ignored it for some reason? Maybe they hated the child or something?

Even though they would most definitely get in deep trouble for ignoring what is actually a life threatening injury after anyone found out?

We don’t know how the femur broke, I suspect it was likely a collision with something, otherwise it would have been noticed. You think the staff were knowingly neglecting a broken femur for the lulz or something, despite how very, very badly that would obviously end for them? I doubt it.

Sorry for upsetting you, but life isn’t simple. We don’t gain much from simply trying to identify some sort of bad guys and then blindly raging against them.

The hypothetical isn’t hard, a culture where a guideline is given that children “acting out” isn’t to be rewarded. In a case where a verbal child would be able to say “my leg hurts very badly”, this child was unable to though, so a system that worked fine with previous children became unable to handle this particular circumstance. The only outward evidence that something is genuinely amiss becomes the crying. At what point then, does crying go from “potentially acting out” to “okay, this might be severe bodily damage”?

15 minutes? 30? An hour? This is where the misapplication of training comes in, and where a judgement call did become necessary, as I doubt any specific timetables were actually provided. Two hours is clearly too long, I think we can all agree on that. But staff at schools are usually undersupplied and understaffed, they are under stress and there are other duties that demand their time. This environment can lead to gross errors.

The “why” and “how” is exactly what I’m on as well, since the beginning. It’s going to be more complicated than any sort of simple “wow, those people are really fucked up”.

No, not really. This persons expertise in autism, their child, etc has no bearing whatsoever in how that one specific school treats its students. These are two completely separate topics, and that person’s child has zero bearing on the discussion, since they are not a student at the Virginia school.

I’m saying it was likely an error in judgement, a mistake that reflects far more than the mindset of the people actually at fault in it. This was not a home, it was a professional environment wherein people are expected to follow the instructions they were given, even when those instructions are at odds with common sense. Choosing to follow your own common sense over any training you have received can be a fireable offense, even if that training has been misinterpreted and misapplied, perhaps even by those that trained you.

No, I did not say that.

See my most recent comment in the thread between me and that user for my reasoning.

No problem, I understand. I just have this sinking feeling that the school staff were probably trying to follow poor, outdated training principles that did not apply to their actual situation, instead of acting with outright malice, and ended up making an unforgivable mistake due to the errors of the system they were within. We really need to fund our schools better.

No, I did not imply this person does not know how to take care of their own child. I implied this person has no idea of what this specific school tells its staff regarding standard procedure, which I still stand by.

Well, I think it’s fairly obvious this passed the line between protocol and neglect, it’s also horrible optics for that specific school.

You’re right that I do not have an autistic child, but arguing using sources instead of personal anecdote is pretty common, and generally a good thing, not a bad thing.