I currently have a Dell laptop that runs Windows for work. I use an external SSD via the Thunderbolt port to boot Linux allowing me to use the laptop as a personal device on a completely separate drive. All I have to do is F12 at boot, then select boot from USB drive.

However, this laptop is only using 1 of the 2 internal M.2 ports. Can I install Linux on a 2nd M.2 drive? I would want the laptop to normally boot Windows without a trace of the second option unless the drive is specified from the BIOS boot options.

Will this cause any issues with Windows? Will I be messing anything up? For the external drive setup, I installed Linux on a different computer, then transferred the SSD to the external drive. Can I do the same for the M.2 SSD – install Linux on my PC, then transfer that drive to the laptop?

Any thoughts or comments are welcome.

Edit: Thank you everyone! This was a great discussion with a lot of great and thoughtful responses. I really appreciate the replies and all the valuable information and opinions given here.

    • phx@lemmy.ca
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      11 months ago

      Yes, and especially don’t fuck with the hardware or core boot/OS configuration. That’d the kind of stuff that can get you fired in most orgs I’ve been in.

      Is Linux likely to mess up the stuff in Windows: probably not? It does require you to do likely-unauthorized things to the device to install, including potentially circumventing some controls required in the work device.

      Whether it causes issue or not, circumventing those policies or controls is not going to land well if you get caught at it.

    • StorageB@lemmy.oneOP
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      11 months ago

      Sure, people should not use their work computer for personal use.

      However, I would say the majority of people absolutely do use it for occasional personal use. Checking your personal email at work? Googling driving directions to the dentist? Using the pdf editor to fill out a form? Searching for a flight during your lunch break? I would say everyone I see at work does this, and I would bet that when they take their laptop home they would not hesitate to boot it up for personal use. And the people working remotely I would wager use it even more.

      I’m not saying it’s right, but I do think using a completely separate SSD and OS is way more responsible from a security perspective.

      • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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        11 months ago

        There is a difference between using software on a work computer for private purposes and installing another OS on a work computer, don’t you think?

      • FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works
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        11 months ago

        and I would bet that when they take their laptop home they would not hesitate to boot it up for personal use. And the people working remotely I would wager use it even more.

        Are you willing to bet your job or career on this? If so, proceed. Otherwise, I would heed the multiple warnings given in this thread. But then again, you might just be one of those fuck around and find out types. If so, be sure and drop in here and let us know how well it went.

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        If you have a job that gave you a computer you can probably afford to go buy your own.

        Depending on the org this is a fireable offense, and at the very least highly suspect, so just be aware.

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        11 months ago

        Just because people do it doesn’t mean you should.

        Using a separate SSD and OS might work fine for protecting your data from company monitoring software, but it doesn’t protect company data from your rogue OS. If your company has a dedicated security team, your head will roll when they find out you put the company at risk. And if they don’t, you better hope IT is either apathetic or incompetent.

        It’s not worth the risk of losing your job for being a liability. They might not be able to tell future employers why you are no longer employed with them, but “we would not hire {you} again if given the opportunity” speaks for itself.

        Just buy a shitty laptop and use that.

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        There’s a difference between using a web browser to access certain websites, which still use the sandboxing and safe environment that the company has set up, and running your own OS which has unrestricted hardware access to everything.

        IT likely knows that people will use their laptops for personal use, but probably trust that browsers are good enough at sandboxing that is not a concern. They can also tweak settings in whatever Windows management thingie they’re using to ensure that everything is up to date and all the programs you are running are safe.

        However, running your own OS is very different. They can’t trust the browser sandbox or OS any more. They can’t trust that you’ll only run safe software. They can’t trust that you’ll not install malware that will infect firmware or your Windows install (which will steal company secrets).

        If I were running an IT department I’d 100% lock down the efi and require a password. I’d try to make it as frictionless as possible if you wanted a certain distro for work reasons, but ultimately I’d like to know what’s going on.

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        11 months ago

        Sure, people should not use their work computer for personal use.

        This isn’t great. But what you’re wanting to do will get you fired.

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        11 months ago

        I feel like 10-15 yrs ago, you’d be absolutely right here, but not now. Everyone I know, even less technical folks, keep it separate simply because they do that stuff on their phone instead.

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        11 months ago

        Simple question: what would your employer say if you asked them?

        My contract has a standard “no using company computers for personal business” clause. However I feel entirely confident that my employer doesn’t mind me using it to do personal errands using the web browser (on my own time). And I know they have no problem with me using Zoom or Teams to join meetings for non-work things in the evening. How do I know this? Because I asked them…

        I’ve never asked them “can I install a new hard drive in my laptop, install an OS I downloaded off the internet, and boot into that OS to do things which I’d rather you not be able to track like you could on the main OS”. But I’m completely confident I’d know what the answer would be if I did ask.

        If you think installing a new SSD etc. is acceptable, ask them. If you’re not asking them because you’re worried they’d say “no”, then don’t do it.

        Try asking them instead if you can use your laptop to look up directions to the dentist on Google Maps. See if you get the same answer.