• Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    That’s a letter U problem. I can administer Linux a bajillion times easier than windows, because I do it for a living, and haven’t touched MS since Server 2010. Also Docker in Windows is LOL. You’re leveraging Linux to shit on Linux. Lets do that all in IIS and see how you feel.

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      Pointing out that you find it easy because you do it for a living isn’t a very good counter to their point - most people do other things besides Linux for a living

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      This is what’s holding the community back. The “get good” advice isn’t really advice and keeps Linux from hitting the mainstream. I get it you’re amazing at Linux but the rest of us shouldn’t have to go back to school to get a computer degree and become a Linux professional in order to use it. This is the same person that replies to questions about Linux with “why do you need the GUI just use the command line instead or it’s dead simple just type: followed by like 80 lines of code that people can’t make heads or tails of because they’re novices. Man I get that you want to flex but it’s a pretty strange flex.

      • RichieAdler 🇦🇷@lemmy.myserv.one
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        OTOH, many people can’t make heads from tails regarding windows, icons or buttons, and they don’t get the contextual clues that the GUI gives for any operating system. They don’t see them, and if they do they’re unable to make the automatic inferences most of us long time users obtain from them. They act as people who are blind from birth and suddenly see, who have problems to understand tridimensionality; the GUI is not in their mind model of how to work with computers, and they have a lot of difficulty interacting with it.

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          Is your point meant to be that these people who already have trouble learning GUIs would somehow have an easier time intuiting command line?

          If that’s correct, that’s an absolutely BS argument

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            Is your point meant to be that these people who already have trouble learning GUIs would somehow have an easier time intuiting command line?

            No, my point is that they’re lost causes and they’re untrainable.

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              No, my point is that they’re lost causes and they’re untrainable.

              Ah… I still don’t get how that’s meant to refute the previous person’s point that elitism and the “git gud” attitude around Linux contributes to it’s inability to become mainstream.

              If anything your reply only reinforces their point, because you seem to be suggesting we throw anybody who struggles to learn it to the curb.

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          So that makes the “get good” advice valid? What are you talking about bro? I didn’t say Linux isn’t valid. I think you must have replied to me specifically on accident because your response isn’t germane to my reply. Or if you feel it is please explain. Make sure you use as many polysyllabic words as possible. I think you wrote up one of the Linux documents I’m to understand.

          Or maybe I’ll just say: cool story bro.

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      IIS is not the same as Docker. Sounds to me you are shitting on IIS for the sake of trying to prove a point I wasn’t trying to make.

      This goes into my next point. Linux users are toxic as hell. They are elitist snobs who shit on newbies because they have years of experience.

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        This is a very dangerous, and unfortunately widespread, generalization. The shitty ones are the loudest ones, and I’m sorry that most of your experience with linux users has been with them. I promise, much of the community are kindhearted individuals who simply use linux because of its ideals, or because they’re developers, or privacy enthusiasts, or those who bought a steam deck and think the lack of windows is pretty neat.

    • Yeah, I started working for a company with a lot of Windows servers two years ago and I still can’t wrap my brain around them. I’ve been a Linux sysadmin/sysarchitect for 20+ years and I’m still completely lost how to get Windows to much of anything. I usually don’t have to do much on those servers, but when I do its StackOverflow that’s really administering them. It’s because I lack foundational knowledge about windows and also because I’m fine not having that knowledge.