Indeed, it’s downright incoherent on a protocol like ActivityPub. The whole point of a system like this is to let content spread around. This isn’t supposed to be a walled garden, with all sorts of terms and conditions and DRM and whatnot. When you make a post and click “send” you’re announcing that content to the whole world. Even to parts of the world that you may not like.
It’s ironic that many of us came to the Fediverse because Reddit tried exactly this sort of nonsense.
I came to the fediverse in 2017, so nothing to do with reddit or meta or twitter.
The fact is here, we have a choice. So you do you.
On mastodon I have an account on an instance that blocked meta and is using authorised fetch (so the proper way to block a domain) : great, my content won’t go there or on any other blocked domains : it’s my choice.
I have another account on another instance that didn’t blocked meta : great, my content will be shared with threads users and I will be able to browse threads.
I said many of us. I know there were people here already when Reddit had its meltdown.
I have no problem with individual instances federating or defederating with whomever they want. The problem is that there’s a movement afoot to try to get everyone to defederate with Meta. That’s what the “FediPact” is about, and this thread is about the FediPact. So I argue against that. If everyone defederates then there goes that choice you’re fond of.
“i am an instance admin/mod on the fediverse. by signing this pact, i hereby agree to block any instances owned by meta should they pop up on the fediverse. project92 is a real and serious threat to the health and longevity of fedi and must be fought back against at every possible opportunity”
What goal do you think a pact like that has? Do you not think they want everyone else on board? Don’t waffle with some “will no one rid me of this troublesome priest” sophistry. They want Meta locked out.
Indeed, one of the great benefits of an open protocol like ActivityPub is that it’s impossible to force stuff like this. So ironically, they’re going to fail to impose their desired outcome for the same reason that they don’t need to impose their desired outcome.
protecting your content from being pushed to an instance that you though your blocked.
protecting your content from being shared where you though it won’t because of the way things are worded.
Isn’t “protecting content” on a public platform kinda moot?
Indeed, it’s downright incoherent on a protocol like ActivityPub. The whole point of a system like this is to let content spread around. This isn’t supposed to be a walled garden, with all sorts of terms and conditions and DRM and whatnot. When you make a post and click “send” you’re announcing that content to the whole world. Even to parts of the world that you may not like.
It’s ironic that many of us came to the Fediverse because Reddit tried exactly this sort of nonsense.
I came to the fediverse in 2017, so nothing to do with reddit or meta or twitter.
The fact is here, we have a choice. So you do you.
On mastodon I have an account on an instance that blocked meta and is using authorised fetch (so the proper way to block a domain) : great, my content won’t go there or on any other blocked domains : it’s my choice.
I have another account on another instance that didn’t blocked meta : great, my content will be shared with threads users and I will be able to browse threads.
Choice, isn’t it great?
I said many of us. I know there were people here already when Reddit had its meltdown.
I have no problem with individual instances federating or defederating with whomever they want. The problem is that there’s a movement afoot to try to get everyone to defederate with Meta. That’s what the “FediPact” is about, and this thread is about the FediPact. So I argue against that. If everyone defederates then there goes that choice you’re fond of.
where did you see that the fedipact main purpose was to impose defederation? that would be rich.
https://fedipact.online/ reads:
What goal do you think a pact like that has? Do you not think they want everyone else on board? Don’t waffle with some “will no one rid me of this troublesome priest” sophistry. They want Meta locked out.
Yes and that’s their right.
But thankfully they don’t impose anything to anyone. You had me worried for a minute.
Indeed, one of the great benefits of an open protocol like ActivityPub is that it’s impossible to force stuff like this. So ironically, they’re going to fail to impose their desired outcome for the same reason that they don’t need to impose their desired outcome.
protecting your content from being pushed to an instance that you though your blocked.
protecting your content from being shared where you though it won’t because of the way things are worded.