And as you said: it’s pretty likely that children like this have developmental and/or behavioral issues.
This life-at-any-cost approach might be understandable for the individual parent/relative, but it’s not exactly the best approach if you’re a bit more detached and less emotional.
Translation: you are exactly the myopic, emotion-driven kind of person I was talking about.
You are potentially forcing a life of misery onto the child, its parents and society as a whole, just because you are too cowardly to say that yes, some lives are not worth living. This is a mercy that every street dog is subject to, but humans not.
And don’t act all “hurr durr value of human life”, just look around the world. We all ignore millions of cruel deaths because it would be like real inconvenient to help them. You are dishonest and hypocritical.
You know that just because the kid might have a chance to develop mental disabilities doesn’t mean the child is going to have a life of ‘‘misery’’ the child might be able to live a full life, the child might require a bit of support or might require alot of support depending on the severity of the child’s mental disabilities
Plus who the fuck are you to decide whenever a life is worth living or not. This decision in this very specific situation should be upto both the parents and doctors
No, I just actually care about people with special needs and don’t want to murder them. I have a special needs kid and I know plenty of other kids with special needs who are very happy to be alive and happy that they have parents that love them and didn’t try to murder them when they were babies.
What you suggest is eugenics and it’s rightly thought of on the same level as the Holocaust. It’s abhorrent.
Seriously, explain to me, how can anybody want to create a life that is objectively way at the lower end of quality of life? How can you justify shelling out thousands of euro/dollar/whatever for such a person, while others are left more or less to die?
“Quality of life” vs “quantity of life” is a question that can be discussed at both ends.
Extending life at all costs is not always the best path.
Society has grown more comfortable having this conversation with regards to the elderly and the terminally ill because it’s easy for them to weigh in on their own circumstances.
It’s a harder conversation when it comes to accident victims or those profoundly stricken by a malady, because they often can’t weigh in.
When it comes to neonatal or infants, it’s harder yet because they can’t weigh in and they’re so precious to us.
No one is talking euthanasia without express consent, that’s monsterous.
Asking if the effort is worth it is different though. As unfortunate as it is, some people never experience enough happiness in their lives to justify the pain we were able to save them for.
It’s sad, but there are people who would rather have been allowed to die than to have to wait 18 years for assisted suicide.
And as you said: it’s pretty likely that children like this have developmental and/or behavioral issues.
This life-at-any-cost approach might be understandable for the individual parent/relative, but it’s not exactly the best approach if you’re a bit more detached and less emotional.
Yikes. Why is this being up voted here?
Translation: let babies who are likely to have developmental issues die.
Translation: you are exactly the myopic, emotion-driven kind of person I was talking about.
You are potentially forcing a life of misery onto the child, its parents and society as a whole, just because you are too cowardly to say that yes, some lives are not worth living. This is a mercy that every street dog is subject to, but humans not.
And don’t act all “hurr durr value of human life”, just look around the world. We all ignore millions of cruel deaths because it would be like real inconvenient to help them. You are dishonest and hypocritical.
You know that just because the kid might have a chance to develop mental disabilities doesn’t mean the child is going to have a life of ‘‘misery’’ the child might be able to live a full life, the child might require a bit of support or might require alot of support depending on the severity of the child’s mental disabilities
Plus who the fuck are you to decide whenever a life is worth living or not. This decision in this very specific situation should be upto both the parents and doctors
No, I just actually care about people with special needs and don’t want to murder them. I have a special needs kid and I know plenty of other kids with special needs who are very happy to be alive and happy that they have parents that love them and didn’t try to murder them when they were babies.
What you suggest is eugenics and it’s rightly thought of on the same level as the Holocaust. It’s abhorrent.
So you are emotional and irrational. You are not the right person to ask here and your opinion has hardly any value.
BTW: it’s not eugenics, but euthanasia. Which is granted to every sick animal. Get your facts straight.
Euthanasia is for people who want to die. Not for murdering babies with special needs.
You’re hardly qualified to judge that.
The hubris you need to have to tell someone “you are not qualified to decide about life and death, unlike me”.
Would you ask an alcoholic, whether alcohol is good?
Or a Christian if Jesus is the son of God?
Or someone with a Cat in New Zealand whether that’s a good idea?
Emotional attachment clouds judgment.
Lol I like that you’re pretending to be the logical one here
How am I arguing illogical?
Seriously, explain to me, how can anybody want to create a life that is objectively way at the lower end of quality of life? How can you justify shelling out thousands of euro/dollar/whatever for such a person, while others are left more or less to die?
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Awesome arguments. Maybe you want to explain what is wrong is here. I suspect, I’m correct and you’re just talking out of your ass.
“Quality of life” vs “quantity of life” is a question that can be discussed at both ends.
Extending life at all costs is not always the best path.
Society has grown more comfortable having this conversation with regards to the elderly and the terminally ill because it’s easy for them to weigh in on their own circumstances.
It’s a harder conversation when it comes to accident victims or those profoundly stricken by a malady, because they often can’t weigh in.
When it comes to neonatal or infants, it’s harder yet because they can’t weigh in and they’re so precious to us.
No one is talking euthanasia without express consent, that’s monsterous.
Asking if the effort is worth it is different though. As unfortunate as it is, some people never experience enough happiness in their lives to justify the pain we were able to save them for.
It’s sad, but there are people who would rather have been allowed to die than to have to wait 18 years for assisted suicide.